View Full Version : "Obama Infomercial more popular than final game of world series"
malfurion_nz
10-30-2008, 11:58 PM
"Mr. Obama’s 30-minute commercial, which played on seven networks, broadcast and cable, was seen by 33.55 million viewers, according to figures released by Nielsen Media Research. On the three broadcast networks that carried the special, the audience totaled more than 25 million, easily surpassing the number for the last World Series game on Fox, which averaged 19.8 million viewers. The special was also available on Univision, and three cable networks, MSNBC, BET and TV One.
“I was shocked by the number Obama was able to draw,” said Leslie Moonves, the chairman of CBS. “It’s just a stunning number.”
Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31rate.html?ref=politics
Link on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtREqAmLsoA
Quite an interesting election season this...
Deathrazor
10-31-2008, 12:26 AM
I'm not sure how I feel about this.
On the one hand, you have politics actually taking precedent over sports. This is good.
On the other hand, if football was on, instead of baseball, more would have watched the game. A sad sign of baseball's decline. :(
I'm a baseball fan so I find it kind of depressing that the biggest game of the year was passed up by most viewers for a political infomercial that basically told us what we already knew about Obama.
CraZyKoKeNo
10-31-2008, 12:31 AM
well this means mccain will have to be more popular than the super bowl if he still wants to clinch it
oh wait
Brilliance
10-31-2008, 12:48 AM
Well, the World Series was on one station... this commercial was all over the place.
On a side-note, if it was Red Sox v Dodgers... more would have watched.
Grimace
10-31-2008, 01:18 AM
Well, the World Series was on one station... this commercial was all over the place.
verdad
Obama has a really good shot of becoming president, no question there.
EnmityOwnsDotA
10-31-2008, 01:56 AM
All I have to say is get the fucking republicans out of washington. We don't need an old geezer and a national joke of a woman in the two most powerful figurehead positions in the world.
FeeDMeAgain
10-31-2008, 02:05 AM
I cant wait for the $$ for college, I would love to do community service for school $$ ;)
MYSTIK
10-31-2008, 02:24 AM
almost noone gives a fuck about boring ass baseball
Jubeebee
10-31-2008, 03:43 AM
For those of you that missed it, here's a transcript of the opening segment.
HI, BILLY MAYS HERE FOR BARACK OBAMA! YOU DON'T NEED AN OLD GEEZER OR CARIBOU BARBIE RUNNING YOUR COUNTRY! YOU NEED BARACK OBAMA! BARACK OBAMA IS NOT BLACK, HE'S NOT WHITE, BUT AN AMAZING COMBINATION OF THE TWO! JUST LOOK HOW HE EATS A MAYONNAISE SANDWICH WITH A CUP OF GRAPE DRANK! AMAZING!
The final game of the World Series was suspended because of rain for one thing. Second, (sad but true) the only people who care about the Rays vs the Phillies are the Rays and Phillies fans (as well as die-hard baseball fans like myself). The Rays don't have that many fans since they just became good like a week ago. Had New York or Boston or Los Angeles or even the Cubs been in the world series, things woulda been different. Also I figure the One station vs multiple station thing Brilliance said is true also.
Last note, the fans don't care what TV ratings are. If Boston is in the world series and I'm the only one in the world who watches it, I don't give a shit. Do you think the Phillies fans care that the ratings for their series was low? Probably not.
Most casual baseball fans only care about their team and their players. If their team isn't involved, then they don't care. It's like this for every sport isn't it? I don't follow football or soccer or whatever so I'm just guessing.
malfurion_nz
10-31-2008, 10:44 AM
To me the comparison to the World Series wasn't the main point, Xler. It's just interesting to me the interplay of popularity, money, and excitement that is evident in these elections. Hell, I'd love to know how to advertise myself and my ideas and get 35 million people to watch it.
ReddFoxxofHell
10-31-2008, 10:46 AM
I'm not sure how I feel about this.
On the one hand, you have politics actually taking precedent over sports. This is good.
On the other hand, if football was on, instead of baseball, more would have watched the game. A sad sign of baseball's decline. :(
I'm a baseball fan so I find it kind of depressing that the biggest game of the year was passed up by most viewers for a political infomercial that basically told us what we already knew about Obama.
Actually this world series was the worst turnout of watchers ever. Thats what happens when you have two small market teams playing against each other in the World Series. You throw in a boston, ny, or la and you'll see how much the ratings will go up.
Perhaps it wasn't the mainpoint. I just happen to have very little interest in this sort of thing (advertising/politics/etc) so my initial reaction was from a baseball perspective. I am actually surprised that this infomercial being higher rated than the world series game was the case, regardless of the teams playing
Imhere4u2die
10-31-2008, 11:22 AM
I'm not sure how I feel about this.
On the one hand, you have politics actually taking precedent over sports. This is good.
On the other hand, if football was on, instead of baseball, more would have watched the game. A sad sign of baseball's decline. :(
I'm a baseball fan so I find it kind of depressing that the biggest game of the year was passed up by most viewers for a political infomercial that basically told us what we already knew about Obama.
Baseball should just die already. It's the most boring sport after Nascar.
pascal3000
10-31-2008, 11:35 AM
Seen the informercial on The Young Turks. Im supporting Obama, and of course i was aware not all of it was true, but the infomercial was pretty well done for a political advertising. Especially the fact he didnt say the name John McCain a single time, it was 100% positive. A John McCain spot like that would be about Obama and hows a terrorist/america-hater/socialist/communist/anti-semite for a whole 30 minutes, if he had the money.
BlackSphinx
10-31-2008, 12:02 PM
Well, a good example why politicians should watch baseball a bit.
NKYpZ42ATHU
Starting at 1:24. Palin booed for praising the Phillies in Pirates country :nono:
a]x[Scott
10-31-2008, 12:51 PM
i watched it and like pascal said it was 100% posititve. if my felony is dropped by nov 4th which i hope it is then im def voting for Obama
Baseball should just die already. It's the most boring sport after Nascar.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean hundreds of millions of others don't like it. A sport with hundreds of millions of fans isn't going to die in our lifetime.
babyfausch
10-31-2008, 01:53 PM
like hockey?
dunno anything about hockey, no comment
Imhere4u2die
10-31-2008, 02:34 PM
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean hundreds of millions of others don't like it. A sport with hundreds of millions of fans isn't going to die in our lifetime.
lol @ hundreds of millions
Louis Wain
10-31-2008, 02:53 PM
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean hundreds of millions of others don't like it. A sport with hundreds of millions of fans isn't going to die in our lifetime.
baseball has like 50 fans, tops. And most of them are fair-weather.
bigyellowtwinki
10-31-2008, 03:07 PM
Baseball has hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of fans. Baseball is the best sport to watch when you're with a bunch of friends because you can catch everything that happens and still party.
TaysChreNN
10-31-2008, 03:28 PM
What a load of melodramatic bollocks
lmaster65
10-31-2008, 03:58 PM
Baseball is bad. Plz put an end to it. I wouldn't pay 5 bucks to sit in the dugout for a game. Game's been out for a couple centuries. Time to move on. /end rant cuz the Jays suck and have no hope
To be fair, it's just baseball :)
And these weren't the teams with the big, traditional fan bases which draw more viewers.
Kevbo
10-31-2008, 05:25 PM
Actually this world series was the worst turnout of watchers ever. Thats what happens when you have two small market teams playing against each other in the World Series. You throw in a boston, ny, or la and you'll see how much the ratings will go up.
same thing happends in football. Seattle vs Pittsburgh? c'mon i doubt that had much more viewers than this WS
Bobbert
10-31-2008, 06:23 PM
baseball = gayball
quakeroats
10-31-2008, 11:08 PM
baseball fails. maybe if it fast forwarded every time someone got a ball/strike, it would be good. like a replay going on 8x through those parts. just have the actual game hits so we have an extra hour in our lives.
Shawster
10-31-2008, 11:45 PM
baseball fails. maybe if it fast forwarded every time someone got a ball/strike, it would be good. like a replay going on 8x through those parts. just have the actual game hits so we have an extra hour in our lives.
maybe you shouldn't stick your nose into other peoples business. if you dont like it, fine but we do, and therefore we don't care about your opinion
i agree, if boston la this series would have had 30m+ viewers. or maybe cubs or something. i don't think baseball is on the decline for viewers, but i think the game is declining for sure
Dishonru
11-01-2008, 01:03 AM
maybe you shouldn't stick your nose into other peoples business. if you dont like it, fine but we do, and therefore we don't care about your opinion
i agree, if boston la this series would have had 30m+ viewers. or maybe cubs or something. i don't think baseball is on the decline for viewers, but i think the game is declining for sureHe has a valid point. There is a complete lack of both strategy and action in baseball (most of the time).
HaeVen
11-01-2008, 01:05 AM
All I have to say is get the fucking republicans out of washington. We don't need an old geezer and a national joke of a woman in the two most powerful figurehead positions in the world.
?? ^.^
lol @ hundreds of millions
Massive fan bases in USA, Canada, South America, Carribean Islands, Japan, China and +... perhaps not hundreds of millions...
Not that it matters to me personally. I already know most people on this site think baseballs boring, too bad you [all] don't speak for everyone outside the internet :happy:
earthlord
11-01-2008, 10:08 AM
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Back to the new topic...baseball is fun to watch as long as its a good game. Some games can't be watched if nothing is happening. Also it is much better to actually be there than on TV with baseball especially.
LeavePlz
11-01-2008, 10:22 AM
Massive fan bases in USA, Canada, South America, Carribean Islands, Japan, China and +... perhaps not hundreds of millions...
Not that it matters to me personally. I already know most people on this site think baseballs boring, too bad you [all] don't speak for everyone outside the internet :happy:
Most people outside think it's boring as well.
?? ^.^
President and VP :curious:
Infernal
11-01-2008, 10:24 AM
baseball is a joke of a sport, i honestly think cricket has more viewers.
John_von_Bob
11-01-2008, 10:36 AM
haha, it was BET.
thats funny
Magess
11-01-2008, 02:27 PM
Football isn't even an Olympic sport, and no country outside of America really cares about it. Soccer, AFAIK is the most popular sport in the world. Baseball definitely comes before football if you consider internationalism.
Actually, here's a list to put it in perspective (several other sites give similar rankings): http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_most_popular_sport_in_the_world
1) Football (Soccer). 3.3-3.5 Billion Fans. (Europe, Africa, Asia, Americas,etc)
2) Cricket 2-3. Billion Fans. (India,U.K,Pakistan,Asia,Australia,etc)
3) Field Hockey. 2-2.2 Billion Fans. (Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia)
4) Tennis. Around 1 Billion Fans. (Europe, Americas, Asia)
5) Volleyball Around 900 Million Fans. (Asia, Erope, Americas, Australia)
6) Table Tennis Around 900 Million Fans. (Asia, Europe, Africa, Americas)
7) Baseball Around 500 Million Fans. (U.S, Japan, Cuba, Dom rep)
8) Golf Around 400 Million Fans. (U.S, Canada, Europe)
9) Gridiron (American football) 390-410 Million Fans. (U.S mainly)
10) Basketball Not more than 400M Fans. (U.S, Canada mainly)
GG whoever laughed at 100 million for baseball.
Solidus
11-01-2008, 04:09 PM
If it were possible, I would take up American Citizenship in a heartbeat solely to vote for Barack Obama. I'm not even an american or into politics but I genuinely feel that he would have such a positive and momentus impact on the world for all the right reasons.
Raith
11-01-2008, 04:11 PM
i dont even know who to vote for.
pascal3000
11-01-2008, 04:14 PM
i dont even know who to vote for.
Why are you unsure?
LordMorvan
11-01-2008, 04:17 PM
1) Football (Soccer). 3.3-3.5 Billion Fans. (Europe, Africa, Asia, Americas,etc)
2) Cricket 2-3. Billion Fans. (India,U.K,Pakistan,Asia,Australia,etc)
3) Field Hockey. 2-2.2 Billion Fans. (Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia)
4) Tennis. Around 1 Billion Fans. (Europe, Americas, Asia)
5) Volleyball Around 900 Million Fans. (Asia, Erope, Americas, Australia)
6) Table Tennis Around 900 Million Fans. (Asia, Europe, Africa, Americas)
7) Baseball Around 500 Million Fans. (U.S, Japan, Cuba, Dom rep)
8) Golf Around 400 Million Fans. (U.S, Canada, Europe)
9) Gridiron (American football) 390-410 Million Fans. (U.S mainly)
10) Basketball Not more than 400M Fans. (U.S, Canada mainly)
GG whoever laughed at 100 million for baseball.
That is some crazy inaccurate list.
ReddFoxxofHell
11-01-2008, 05:09 PM
baseball fails. maybe if it fast forwarded every time someone got a ball/strike, it would be good. like a replay going on 8x through those parts. just have the actual game hits so we have an extra hour in our lives.
Average baseball game: 2:50 (in 2004)
Average football game: 3:02 for non televised, and like 3:15 for televised game
So i guess football fails by your standard.
Edit: Actually its much higher for football:
http://thewizardofodds.blogspot.com/2008/02/who-is-to-blame-for-longer-games.html
CTMWood
11-01-2008, 05:22 PM
I think I missed the World Series, where did England come this year?
LeavePlz
11-01-2008, 05:23 PM
Average baseball game: 2:50 (in 2004)
Average football game: 3:02 for non televised, and like 3:15 for televised game
So i guess football fails by your standard.
Edit: Actually its much higher for football:
http://thewizardofodds.blogspot.com/2008/02/who-is-to-blame-for-longer-games.html
Baseball doesn't have 300lb men running and sumo wrestling other 300lb men every 40 seconds....people would die if football was faster paced.
Like 4 people move on the average baseball play...the other people can count blades of grass in the process.
Louis Wain
11-01-2008, 07:16 PM
Baseball doesn't have 300lb men running and sumo wrestling other 300lb men every 40 seconds....people would die if football was faster paced.
If football was faster paced, you'd have to give it a different name, like rugby.
but that's crazy so I don't know why we're even talking about it
Elite_Stealth
11-01-2008, 07:19 PM
Football isn't even an Olympic sport, and no country outside of America really cares about it. Soccer, AFAIK is the most popular sport in the world. Baseball definitely comes before football if you consider internationalism.
Actually, here's a list to put it in perspective (several other sites give similar rankings): http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_most_popular_sport_in_the_world
1) Football (Soccer). 3.3-3.5 Billion Fans. (Europe, Africa, Asia, Americas,etc)
2) Cricket 2-3. Billion Fans. (India,U.K,Pakistan,Asia,Australia,etc)
3) Field Hockey. 2-2.2 Billion Fans. (Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia)
4) Tennis. Around 1 Billion Fans. (Europe, Americas, Asia)
5) Volleyball Around 900 Million Fans. (Asia, Erope, Americas, Australia)
6) Table Tennis Around 900 Million Fans. (Asia, Europe, Africa, Americas)
7) Baseball Around 500 Million Fans. (U.S, Japan, Cuba, Dom rep)
8) Golf Around 400 Million Fans. (U.S, Canada, Europe)
9) Gridiron (American football) 390-410 Million Fans. (U.S mainly)
10) Basketball Not more than 400M Fans. (U.S, Canada mainly)
GG whoever laughed at 100 million for baseball.
so you think about half the worlds population is a fan of soccer??
CraZyKoKeNo
11-01-2008, 08:38 PM
Football isn't even an Olympic sport, and no country outside of America really cares about it. Soccer, AFAIK is the most popular sport in the world. Baseball definitely comes before football if you consider internationalism.
Actually, here's a list to put it in perspective (several other sites give similar rankings): http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_most_popular_sport_in_the_world
1) Football (Soccer). 3.3-3.5 Billion Fans. (Europe, Africa, Asia, Americas,etc)
2) Cricket 2-3. Billion Fans. (India,U.K,Pakistan,Asia,Australia,etc)
3) Field Hockey. 2-2.2 Billion Fans. (Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia)
4) Tennis. Around 1 Billion Fans. (Europe, Americas, Asia)
5) Volleyball Around 900 Million Fans. (Asia, Erope, Americas, Australia)
6) Table Tennis Around 900 Million Fans. (Asia, Europe, Africa, Americas)
7) Baseball Around 500 Million Fans. (U.S, Japan, Cuba, Dom rep)
8) Golf Around 400 Million Fans. (U.S, Canada, Europe)
9) Gridiron (American football) 390-410 Million Fans. (U.S mainly)
10) Basketball Not more than 400M Fans. (U.S, Canada mainly)
GG whoever laughed at 100 million for baseball.
no.
E-thug
11-01-2008, 08:41 PM
so you think about half the worlds population is a fan of soccer??
when i saw that I literally lol'd. Made the whole list trash
Magess
11-01-2008, 10:12 PM
Then provide another list that shows other numbers, I don't care. My point was many more people, worldwide, care about baseball than football.
pascal3000
11-01-2008, 10:24 PM
so you think about half the worlds population is a fan of soccer??
Manchester United Football Club [...] is one of the most popular football clubs in the world,[3] with over 330 million supporters worldwide[4][5] – almost 5% of the world's population
Now do you think that manchester united supporters are more or less than 10% of all soccer fans worldwide? Because if its less, the statistic has to be right.
Louis Wain
11-01-2008, 10:31 PM
when i saw that I literally lol'd. Made the whole list trash
It seems about right. 800 million people watched the last world cup finals, and you have to consider that most people don't have televisions.
ReddFoxxofHell
11-02-2008, 02:45 AM
Baseball doesn't have 300lb men running and sumo wrestling other 300lb men every 40 seconds....people would die if football was faster paced.
Like 4 people move on the average baseball play...the other people can count blades of grass in the process.
Like louis wain has stated ruby is a similar sport played without pads, and they only have 1 hour and 20 minutes to play, no stopage no rest nothing, thats it just 1 hour and 20 minutes of play and I don't see them dying every game. Am I missing something? Btw i thought you guys were saying baseball is boring from the viewers perspective not the players, if so then why you talking about the players for? I think I'm missing something some where.
replayers.Pure
11-02-2008, 03:50 AM
Like louis wain has stated ruby is a similar sport played without pads, and they only have 1 hour and 20 minutes to play, no stopage no rest nothing, thats it just 1 hour and 20 minutes of play and I don't see them dying every game. Am I missing something? Btw i thought you guys were saying baseball is boring from the viewers perspective not the players, if so then why you talking about the players for? I think I'm missing something some where.
I think you missed the part where he claimed the players would be incapable of playing faster - which was his justification of the game being longer. Mentioning the baseball players lack of movement was simply to show that they have more of a rest, following his logic: they need less time to play the game.
However, rugby takes it to an extreme, one we shouldn't look at since the entire argument is stupid. If you don't like to watch the sports, watch another sport or don't watch at all. (Then again there is always the "I can make my comment because it's my opinion." argument, but then we're just fighting for no reason. That's wasted time, time we could spend watching soccer!)
PS: I meant the guy in MYM, football is boring ;)
FuKiSuK
11-02-2008, 05:07 AM
it was the most boring series since astros vs white sox (2005) should of been angels vs cardinals in 2005
LeavePlz
11-02-2008, 11:06 AM
Like louis wain has stated ruby is a similar sport played without pads, and they only have 1 hour and 20 minutes to play, no stopage no rest nothing, thats it just 1 hour and 20 minutes of play and I don't see them dying every game. Am I missing something? Btw i thought you guys were saying baseball is boring from the viewers perspective not the players, if so then why you talking about the players for? I think I'm missing something some where.
I don't know anything about rugby. Are there a lot of obese people in rugby like football?
And yeah, you're missing that baseball is boring from all angles.
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