Frost Mage Spec

[Sapphire]

I'm on the cusp of 53 now and very happy with my frost mage. It's really paying off now with points in frostbite. Ice block is the best. I love the deer in the headlights look of warriors/rogues who focus on me, then when I pop the iceblock they realize I am invulnerable and that they are about to get destroyed by my groupmates. I can't wait to get ice barrier ^_^

Anyway here it is. Any thoughts?

Class: Mage
Level: 60



Arcane Talents (18 points)


Improved Arcane Missiles - 5/5 points
Gives you a 100% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while channeling Arcane Missiles.

Arcane Concentration - 5/5 points
Gives you a 10% chance of entering a Clearcasting state after any damage spell hits a target. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.

Evocation - 1/1 point
While channeling this spell, your mana regeneration is active and increased by 1500%. Lasts 8 seconds.

Improved Arcane Explosion - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Arcane Explosion by 1.5 seconds.

Improved Counterspell - 2/2 points
Gives your Counterspell a 100% chance to silence the target for 4 seconds.



Frost Talents (33 points)

Improved Frostbolt - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Frostbolt spell by 0.5 seconds.

Permafrost - 1/5 point
Increases the duration of your chill effects by 1 second.

Winter's Chill - 2/3 points
Increases the power of your chill effects by slowing the target's movement by an additional 7%.

Ice Shards - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Frost spells by 100%.

Improved Frost Nova - 2/2 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Frost Nova spell by ?.

Cold Snap - 1/1 point
When activated, this spell finishes the cooldown on all of your cold spells.

Improved Blizzard - 1/3 point
Adds a chill effect to your Blizzard spell. This effect lowers the target's movement speed to 60% of normal. Lasts 8.50 seconds.

Shatter - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your frost spells against frozen targets by 50%.

Frost Channeling - 2/3 points
Reduces the mana cost of your frost spells by 10%.

Arctic Reach - 2/2 points
Increases the range of your Frostbolt spell and the radius of your Frost Nova and Cone of Cold spells by 20%.

Ice Block - 1/1 point
You become encased in a block of ice, protecting you from all physical attacks and spells for 10 seconds, but during that time you cannot attack, move, or cast spells.

Frostbite - 5/5 points
Gives your chill effects a 15% chance to freeze the target for 5 seconds.

Ice Barrier - 1/1 point
Instantly shields you, absorbing 455 damage. Lasts 1 minute. While the shield holds, spells will not be interrupted.



Fire Talents (0 points)

None

[The_Teleporter]

I prefer 5/5 Permafrost and 3/3 Winters chill over Imp. Frostbolt.

[koleen]

A frostmage will be spamming frostbolt, so increasing permafrost would really help that much as when your next frostbolt hits, you get another slow(and slows from bolts don't stack)

[Blynx]

Winters chill seems kinda pointless to me(unless i gets improved but only 7% for 2 talent points?).
Only thing i would change.

Not having the 2 points in winters chill. 1 into improved blizzard and 1 into frost channeling.

I don't know anywhere near as much as you though.

I have the same arcane setup and i don't think i could play mage without those 18 talent points into arcane xD..

[The_Teleporter]

A frostmage will be spamming frostbolt, so increasing permafrost would really help that much as when your next frostbolt hits, you get another slow(and slows from bolts don't stack)
Take those 2 skills, add Imp Blizzard 3/3, do a instance and then come back to say that. No runners, dying rogues/warriors get away easily etc.

[Sapphire]

One point into Improved Blizzard gives me the slowing effect. I think it's decreasing returns after that. And yes koleen is right that spamming frostbolt makes permafrost pretty useless, which is why I haven't put that point in yet and am debating whether I will. It's really just for runners.

Personally I believe 5/5 Permafrost and 3/3 Winter's Chill to be overkill when you can get plenty of slowing effect with just a few points and put the rest into damage.

One thing I am thinking about is sacrificing maybe a point in Winter's Chill and Arctic Reach to get two points in Piercing Ice, which would raise my base frost spell damage by 4%. That doesn't seem like much for 2 points though, even with crits on top of it. I may be able to get the same result with +damage gear.

[d-bos]

I really don't see why anyone doesn't do frost/arcane as you have done. Ice block is ownage in PvP too, own's dots and etc...

[Blynx]

Sapphire can you beat hunters/druids/priests as a frostmage?

At my current lvl and with only a few points into the frost part of my build i get totally raped by hunters/druids/priests. Wondering if i get better against those classes later into the build. Druid and priest is somewhat close but hunters seem to have np at all with me.

[davvnorcal]

hmm i recently started a mage on a low pop server and wondering which is better for fast leveling.. frost/arc or fire/arc
fire does more damage but frost is good too for the chill effects and stuff
:curious:

[VVoLF]

Paz (my housemate) has the best Frost Mage build I've seen. He's one of the highest regarded Level 60 Mage's on Blackrock, and I see him rip it up in PvP / Raid instances all the time. He rerolled his talents at least 10-15 times just to perfect it.

I'll check his char out later and add his build to this thread.

[Sapphire]

Cool, thanks VVoLF.

BrIaN if I get the jump on the hunter I usually win. But if he gets his pet on me and starts with that viper shot I'm going to have trouble. Priests own me because I don't have my two points into improved counterspell yet. I do well against warriors and rogues. If I see a shaman I sheep it and run. If I manage to kill it, he was afk. I almost never see a druid PVPing who is my level or lower. And they usually run. If I'm versus a mage, I'll lose if the mage is fire specced. I have like a 50/50 chance of winning versus a warlock depending how lucky he is with fear/what pet he has out.

That said, I'm not a big duelist. My spec is for support in group PVP and for getting out of potentially nasty situations. :)

[Blynx]

Against the hunter i usually frost nova the pet to keep it out of the battle for aslong as possible and try fighting the hunter(without pet). Now that i am starting to advance into the frost section of my build it is becoming closer duels with hunters and i am coming out better against druids. I have the 4 second silence(counterspell improved) but i am not sure when to use it against the priest. I have dueled 1 fire mage and i owned him, i had power word fortitude and mark of the wild though =P

http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?29342

Just starting out in the frost section.

[PleaseDie]

Haven't ever played a mage, but is there any reason that polymorphing the pet wouldn't be effective?

[Blynx]

Can only poly humanoids. Also with all the Aoe you have to be really careful not to hit if them while they polymorphed.

[Sapphire]

Huh? I poly pets all the time. You can poly humanoids and beasts.

[Blynx]

o_O i tried once and it said invalid targget so i never tried again :(

Even if i could get the pet polymorphed when i frost nova it would probably hit it and bring it out of the poly (cause i am newb).

[VVoLF]

You just can't poly Undead. Because apparently during the time period between WarCraft III and WoW, the undead found some kind of immunity to it. :p

[Sapphire]

VVoLF I still want to see your friend's spec. :)

[Kathandrion]

Here's my build:
Arcane Talents (18 points)


Improved Arcane Missiles - 5/5 points
Gives you a 100% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while channeling Arcane Missiles.


Arcane Concentration - 5/5 points
Gives you a 10% chance of entering a Clearcasting state after any damage spell hits a target. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.


Improved Arcane Explosion - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Arcane Explosion by 1.5 seconds.


Evocation - 1/1 point
While channeling this spell, your mana regeneration is active and increased by 1500%. Lasts 8 seconds.


Improved Counterspell - 2/2 points
Gives your Counterspell a 100% chance to silence the target for 4 seconds.




Frost Talents (33 points)


Improved Frostbolt - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Frostbolt spell by 0.5 seconds.


Improved Frost Nova - 2/2 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Frost Nova spell by 4 seconds.


Ice Shards - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Frost spells by 100%.


Piercing Ice - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your frost spells by 6%.


Cold Snap - 1/1 point
When activated, this spell finishes the cooldown on all of your cold spells.


Shatter - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your frost spells against frozen targets by 50%.


Arctic Reach - 2/2 points
Increases the range of your Frostbolt spell and the radius of your Frost Nova and Cone of Cold spells by 20%.


Improved Cone of Cold - 3/3 points
Increases the damage dealt by your Cone of Cold spell by 35%.


Ice Block - 1/1 point
You become encased in a block of ice, protecting you from all physical attacks and spells for 10 seconds, but during that time you cannot attack, move, or cast spells.


Frostbite - 5/5 points
Gives your chill effects a 15% chance to freeze the target for 5 seconds.


Ice Barrier - 1/1 point
Instantly shields you, absorbing 455 damage. Lasts 1 minute. While the shield holds, spells will not be interrupted.

I just don't see the point of slowing them down more/for longer. I'm all about damage of crits and I would never give up the extra damge of CoC for them. AoE fo' life foo'.

On the fire mage side, I watched a freakin' awesome pvp video of a fire mage raping people in pvp with a vengeance. Check this crap out:

PWNAGE! (http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=479 )

[Sapphire]

Yeah I actually ended up putting 2 points in CoC because I use it so much.

[steinkalv]

u CAN be da polymorpher of dem pets ya

[The_Teleporter]

On the fire mage side, I watched a freakin' awesome pvp video of a fire mage raping people in pvp with a vengeance. Check this crap out:

PWNAGE! (http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=479 )
Yeah I've been trying to figure this guys build out. And I'm thinking it goes something similar to this, strange thing is that he cant have Combustion because he already has Presence of Mind (insta-cast fireballs). So this is what im roughly guessing he has.

Arcane Talents (21 points)


Improved Arcane Missiles - 5/5 points
Gives you a 100% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while channeling Arcane Missiles.


Arcane Subtlety - 2/3 points
Reduces the threat generated by your offensive arcane spells by 30%.


Arcane Concentration - 5/5 points
Gives you a 10% chance of entering a Clearcasting state after any damage spell hits a target. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.


Evocation - 1/1 point
While channeling this spell, your mana regeneration is active and increased by 1500%. Lasts 8 seconds.


Improved Arcane Explosion - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Arcane Explosion by 1.5 seconds.


Improved Counterspell - 2/2 points
Gives your Counterspell a 100% chance to silence the target for 4 seconds.


Presence of Mind - 1/1 point
When activated, your next Mage spell with a casting time less than 10 seconds becomes an instant cast spell.




Frost Talents (0 points)


None


Fire Talents (30 points)


Impact - 5/5 points
Gives your fire spells a 10% chance to stun the taget for 2 seconds.


Improved Fire Blast - 5/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Fire Blast spell by 1.5 seconds.


Flame Throwing - 2/2 points
Increases the range of your fire spells by 6 yards.


Ignite - 5/5 points
Your critical strikes from fire damage spells cause the target to burn for an additional 40% of your spell's damage over 4 seconds.


Incinerate - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Fire Blast and Scorch spells by 4%.


Burning Soul - 3/3 points
Gives your fire spells a 65% chance to not lose casting time when you take damage.


Critical Mass - 3/3 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your fire spells by 6%.


Fire Power - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your fire spells by 10%.

or

Arcane Talents (21 points)


Improved Arcane Missiles - 5/5 points
Gives you a 100% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while channeling Arcane Missiles.


Arcane Subtlety - 2/3 points
Reduces the threat generated by your offensive arcane spells by 30%.


Arcane Concentration - 5/5 points
Gives you a 10% chance of entering a Clearcasting state after any damage spell hits a target. The Clearcasting state reduces the mana cost of your next damage spell by 100%.


Improved Arcane Explosion - 5/5 points
Reduces the casting time of your Arcane Explosion by 1.5 seconds.


Evocation - 1/1 point
While channeling this spell, your mana regeneration is active and increased by 1500%. Lasts 8 seconds.


Improved Counterspell - 2/2 points
Gives your Counterspell a 100% chance to silence the target for 4 seconds.


Presence of Mind - 1/1 point
When activated, your next Mage spell with a casting time less than 10 seconds becomes an instant cast spell.




Frost Talents (0 points)


None


Fire Talents (30 points)


Impact - 5/5 points
Gives your fire spells a 10% chance to stun the taget for 2 seconds.


Improved Fire Blast - 3/5 points
Reduces the cooldown of your Fire Blast spell by 1 second.


Flame Throwing - 2/2 points
Increases the range of your fire spells by 6 yards.


Ignite - 5/5 points
Your critical strikes from fire damage spells cause the target to burn for an additional 40% of your spell's damage over 4 seconds.


Incinerate - 2/2 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Fire Blast and Scorch spells by 4%.


Improved Scorch - 5/5 points
Burns the target for an additional 25% of your Scorch spell damage over 4 seconds.


Critical Mass - 3/3 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your fire spells by 6%.


Fire Power - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your fire spells by 10%.

[Sapphire]

The Teleporter, you might want to consider starting a new thread since this one is about frost mage spec.

[The_Teleporter]

Well it was just about the movie, got a lil' carried away because he was so damn good wont do it again >_<

[Blynx]

This is what my build is going to look like when it is finished.

Arcane Talents (18 points)

5/5 Improved Arcane missiles.

5/5 Arcane Concentration.

1/1 Evocation,

5/5 Improved Arcane Explosion.

2/2 Improved Counterspell.

All of these are incredibly useful for Pve exept for counterspell which i use alot in duels.

Frost Talents (32 Points)

5/5 Improved Frostbolt.

2/2 Improved Frost Nova.

5/5 Ice Shards.

1/1 Cold Snap.

3/3 Improved Blizzard.

5/5 Shatter.

1/1 Ice Block.

3/3 Frost Channeling.

2/3 Improved Cone Of Cold.

5/5 Frostbite.

1/1 Ice Barrier.

This is what it will look like when it is complete, currently im at 25 points into frost section at lvl 52. What use think of it?

[The_Teleporter]

This is what my build is going to look like when it is finished.

Arcane Talents (18 points)

5/5 Improved Arcane missiles.

5/5 Arcane Concentration.

1/1 Evocation,

5/5 Improved Arcane Explosion.

2/2 Improved Counterspell.

All of these are incredibly useful for Pve exept for counterspell which i use alot in duels.

Frost Talents (32 Points)

5/5 Improved Frostbolt.

2/2 Improved Frost Nova.

5/5 Ice Shards.

1/1 Cold Snap.

3/3 Improved Blizzard.

5/5 Shatter.

1/1 Ice Block.

3/3 Frost Channeling.

2/3 Improved Cone Of Cold.

5/5 Frostbite.

1/1 Ice Barrier.

This is what it will look like when it is complete, currently im at 25 points into frost section at lvl 52. What use think of it?Yeah if you're going for a frost mage this is hands down the best PvP build available, there are better for endgame instances IMO but that isnt what you will spend most time on when u hit 60 :)