Priests?

[Lynk-]

I was just wondering.. Why does everyone say Priests are so good?

[Park Man]

because if u spec into shadow u are completely and totally imbalanced. u have a massive damage dot, a shield, healing spells, and pretty good burst dps spell(mindblast) u can get into groups easily being secondary or first healer, u have silence, mindflay(a skill that drains enemy life and makes them run slower).

shadow priest are the best solorers( and please in god hells name dont say a hunter or warlock because ive played both).

[Lynk-]

sounds pretty cool..and the name sounds cool, might make that as my next chara. Having alot of fun with my warrior atm

[Lidow]

And to top it off they are the top healers in the game, only class that comes close is a druid.

[Sapphire]

Pallys are good in touchy situations becasue they generate low threat from their heals. They are shit healers on mages that want to AOE though. They heal too slowly!

[The_Teleporter]

because if u spec into shadow u are completely and totally imbalanced. u have a massive damage dot, a shield, healing spells, and pretty good burst dps spell(mindblast) u can get into groups easily being secondary or first healer, u have silence, mindflay(a skill that drains enemy life and makes them run slower).

shadow priest are the best solorers( and please in god hells name dont say a hunter or warlock because ive played both).
Think you can outgrind a combat rogue? No fucking way.

[Shaq Pack]

Here are the cons and pros with priests, I'm a 44 priest so I'm pretty familiar :P

Pros:
- You can get into any instance at almost any time you want
- You don't need two healers for most instances below lvl 50 (just about all of them I'd say), even if you're a shadow priest
- As a holy priest, you'll be in high demand for the hardest instances (BRS, scholomance, etc.)... kinda redundant, ain't it?
- You'll often be able to do quests well below you're skill lvl because you'll be able to team with higher lvl folks that know you can make their questing much easier
- As long as you have *some* mana, you can virtually never die
- Shadow Priests aren't too bad at solo, I can usually solo something 3-4 lvls higher than me pretty easily, provided I got some drinks and am good on mana
- Spells like mindflay and mind vision can make certain quests much easier than if you were soloing with another class
- You can usually always escape enemies when near death
- In PVP, shadow priests can stand up to mages, pallys, and other classes fairly well with attacks that can definitely catch them off guard, in fact many would say a priest can take on all other classes when used in the right hands
- You can remove diseases and shackle undead, which comes in handy often at times you wouldn't expect

Cons:
- If you don't go shadow spec, expect to have a VERY difficult time questing (due to doing so little damage), in fact you'll probably want to do instances and nothing else
- The discipline spec line for priests is almost completely worthless, giving you little creativity and it gets boring seeing nothing but shadow priests all the time
- Even as a shadow priest, you'll always need a huge stock of drinks on hand for any purpose whatsoever
- The stamina buff isn't as great as most think, on warriors, it adds almost nothing, even on your own priest, the buff RARELY makes a difference when it comes to death, and it's also VERY mana expensive to buff a whole party, you'll usually need to do it on a couple people, drink, then do it again
- You'll spend much of your time in instances doing nothing but staring at your friends' health bars, which can get old
- At higher lvls you'll NEED to change to a holy priest, as it's very hard to do otherwise, as you're healing will be good, but often not good enough
- If you're not a shadow priest, PVP is virtually impossible, as you can't stop enemies from running away (they'd probably not need to, as they can kill you easily), which basically means you can either do instances or PVP, but usually not both
- You'll need to get items that are VERY big on spirit, as you have no quick way to normally refill your mana, which is always a necessity

Yup, it's redundant, but that's the case, don't expect to do LOTS of questing, instances, as well as PVPing, you can't have all 3, but it's definitely nice always being able to find a group for quests, and completing tasks at way lower lvls that other classes could.

[Shaq Pack]

One last thing, you're healing causes aggro to you, which in instances with large mobs is a death wish, so you've got to be tactical about your heals, and do them after you're party has taken some abuse, but not to the point where they are about to die (you'll have lots of people angry with you).

[Blynx]

Anyone Have a link to a good shadow priest build?

[Sapphire]

Spec full shadow and part discipline I'd imagine.

[The_Teleporter]

Spec full shadow and part discipline I'd imagine.
yup, I just wait with my hand on the "8" key and press WotF when they use psychic scream, then I kill them...

[Sapphire]

What does that have to do with a talent spec?

[Blynx]

:rofl:

[davvnorcal]

Priests completly rape shamans,I cant get close to them to melee or even earth shock them. Fear+their mana burn spell+Dot spell combo =gg

[Park Man]

Think you can outgrind a combat rogue? No fucking way.
i fucking pwned rogues with my priest, shadow priest are the best duelers u just need to accept it, no1 can change it

[The_Teleporter]

i fucking pwned rogues with my priest, shadow priest are the best duelers u just need to accept it, no1 can change it
Yes, but outgrinding has nothing to do with levels, its how much exp/hour you get from only killing mobs, no quests. A shadowpriest does that better then a rogue? No way man.

[d-bos]

well shaman can take off their PW:S, interrupt mind flay, have pretty high dps, can pull 1 instant heal in the fight, and occassionally will have scream broken by tremor. I'd say its pretty much a luck matchup based on crits, resists (1 resist in this matchup can make it pretty one sided), lucky tremor ticks and scream break timing. On the whole it favors priests, but its just a really really quick matchup that can go either way really. If you are enhancement as far too many shaman are (imo), prepare to be reemed(sp?).

[doomflama]

im a warrior, and only lvl 32, but in fighting so far i fiend that shamans are very hard to kill. ive nearly lost to 1 3 or 4 levels below me. and i do know how to duel pretty good, and ive got alot of decent items on my char, all of but like 1 are blue.

[Park Man]

Yes, but outgrinding has nothing to do with levels, its how much exp/hour you get from only killing mobs, no quests. A shadowpriest does that better then a rogue? No way man.
ive played them both a shadow priest outgrinds a rogue. This is coming from someone who has played BOTH. not just a shadow priest and is trying to leen towards them.

[PleaseDie]

ive played them both a shadow priest outgrinds a rogue. This is coming from someone who has played BOTH. not just a shadow priest and is trying to leen towards them.
Maybe, but you may also have a better priest talent build or better equipment.

[The_Teleporter]

Try using this build as a rogue (swords, cheapshot not a dagger build).

10-11: Imp SS (2/2)
12-14: Lightning Reflexes (3/5)
15-19: Deflection (5/5)
20: Riposte (1/1)
21-25: Precision (5/5)
26-29: Dual Wield Spec (4/5)
30: Blade Flurry (1/1)
31-35: Camo (5/5)
36-40: Malice (5/5)
41-43: Ruthlessness (3/3)
44-45: Imp Evis (2/3)
46: Relentless Strikes (1/1)
47: Imp Evis (3/3)
48-50: Lethality (3/5)
51-55: Imp Instant Poison (5/5)
56: Cold Blood (1/1)

Outgrinding a Assassination/Subtlety rogue is no problem but a combat rogue can take 3 equal level mobs, sometimes more if he has a pot, with blade flurry up, and with pickpocket you get waaaay more gold then any other class too, grinding vs humanoids with weapons is what this is for btw.

[vD.Gummy]

Priests completly rape shamans,I cant get close to them to melee or even earth shock them. Fear+their mana burn spell+Dot spell combo =gg

You are a noob, how can you not get close to a priest!?!?!??! Fear...yeah ok.....you run for MAX for 8 secs and then the priest has to wait for 26 secs for cool down to cast another fear. Purge their PW:S and use your frost shock if his/her jumping around and if you see them try and interuppt thier heals with earth shock (which is mainly flash heal) and mana burn has a long cast time if you see them casting it earth shock

TO SHAQ PAK
errr the statement about the discipline talent tree being worhtless. IS SO FALSE. Getting IMPROVED PW:S is a MUST reducing your weakened soul effect by half. Unbreakable Will is a MUST giving you +15% chance to resist stun, fear etc (when maxed out) The Inner fire upgrade is very nifty too and so is improved mana burn (although not a must)
Usually a priest is a: (Primary,Secondary)
Shadow+discipline
Holy+discipline
Discipline+shadow
Discipline+holy

A Discipline+shadow priest will beat a Shadow+discipline most of the time, due to the fact that discipline will give you better mana improvements and with out mana your a sitting duck

[AbandonAllHope]

i fucking pwned rogues with my priest, shadow priest are the best duelers u just need to accept it, no1 can change it


blizzard can change whatever they want i guess..

[Park Man]

they have no reason to nerf shadow priest, of course there imba but there main purpose is to heal and own

[Myth]

Well it gets slightly annoying as a mage, when a shadow priest comes up and mindblast/DoT's you and you have no_freaking_chance at all to do something back.

If you have a pot on you, you can hope to polymorph and run, but yea that's about it.

[The_Teleporter]

Well it gets slightly annoying as a mage, when a shadow priest comes up and mindblast/DoT's you and you have no_freaking_chance at all to do something back.

If you have a pot on you, you can hope to polymorph and run, but yea that's about it.
Poly, Shadow Resistance pots, Ice mages ice block, I have seen a fire mage completely own a shadow priest that wasnt a noob with only a shadow resist pot.

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=723

and

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=479

Right click save as on the Mirror links below the picture. First is ice mage dueling, there is a shadow priest in there, second is a fire mage PvPing, he meets 2 shadow priests.

[davvnorcal]

stfu VD i made this post when i didnt know jack shit about shamans.. wow u must feel proud calling someone a noob in a forums, gj geek

[Myth]

stfu VD i made this post when i didnt know jack shit about shamans.. wow u must feel proud calling someone a noob in a forums, gj geek

You made it sound like you knew all about it though. When you know you don't know shit about something you're not gonna run around and shout things as if you know they are facts.

[Sapphire]

Myth has a very good point there. No more bickering or posturing in this thread please.

[d-bos]

once shaman get the tremor buff i think priests will have a really hard time.

Right now tremor is pretty worthless (ticks only every 5 seconds), and a good priest will wait for the grounding and kill it first, or only when he knows you arent using it will scream you. Once they pull the scream its often gg, they can straight up DPS you (mana burn and mb), mind flay, maybe get a blackout proc, keep dps'ing, wait for the heal to come, own it with silence, and dps till dead. Because that does assume they proc, and also that they can kill you during the silence, and that you don't time the grounding perfectly, it can pretty much go either way. A good shadow priest is really a tough situation.

As for protection potions, shadow is the hardest one to make, and not only that, priests can dispel it (and a smart priest WILL once they see you are absorbing sw:p). Also, potions in general are a lot of effort for PvP, except health and mana which drop frequently off mobs. I prefer potioning difficult PvE content. They also like to dispel snare effects so getting close to them isnt a sure thing, despite what a poster above me said.

[The_Teleporter]

Yeah after re-watching that movie the pot got dispelled after 1 tick >_<

[Blynx]

I never have and never will come close to beating a priest.

I am lvl 56 and dueled a 60 priest in my guild(holy spec =/) and he pretty much raped me without trouble. Shadow priests are a whole lot worse.

I am fine with this though as it is pretty much the same for me against warrior, i don't lose to warriors within a few levels of myself(frost mage).

[vD.Gummy]

once shaman get the tremor buff i think priests will have a really hard time.

Right now tremor is pretty worthless (ticks only every 5 seconds), and a good priest will wait for the grounding and kill it first, or only when he knows you arent using it will scream you. Once they pull the scream its often gg, they can straight up DPS you (mana burn and mb), mind flay, maybe get a blackout proc, keep dps'ing, wait for the heal to come, own it with silence, and dps till dead. Because that does assume they proc, and also that they can kill you during the silence, and that you don't time the grounding perfectly, it can pretty much go either way. A good shadow priest is really a tough situation.

As for protection potions, shadow is the hardest one to make, and not only that, priests can dispel it (and a smart priest WILL once they see you are absorbing sw:p). Also, potions in general are a lot of effort for PvP, except health and mana which drop frequently off mobs. I prefer potioning difficult PvE content. They also like to dispel snare effects so getting close to them isnt a sure thing, despite what a poster above me said.


ekkk with the new patch, you cant dispell the alecmy buffs any more ><. (hopefully some one can prove me wrong)

Also to davvnorcal sry if i offended you but i have my things againt shammans.

[d-bos]

thats just elixirs and flasks, you can still dispel the ones labelled "potion" (like the protection potions). Otherwise they would just be too broken in pvp.

[Infernal]

whoever says priests are the best solo'ers is officially an idiot. And no, we are not "Allmighty" in duels (yes, we can efficiently rape most classes, but we're not king of the hill). Undead rogues (or just rogues for that matter) can pick us apart easily. A good shaman that knows what he's doing can rape us easily (2h with windfury, groundingtotem & purge abuse gg). Hunters also stand a good chance against us (mana arrows drain 6k mana in 8 sec k thx gg priest). The only classes i can really play with are warriors and paladins (so overrated).

lvl 55 shadow/disc specced priest @ burning legion.