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Demon_Huntah
03-06-2005, 08:53 PM
Allright, so me and my pal are playing dual rogues so we wanted a good build, but couldnt find one that actually worked good enough. So we decided to make our own...this is what we came up with:

Improved Gouge
Rank: 3/3
Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5sec

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Improved Sinister Strike
Rank: 2/2
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5.

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Precision
Rank: 5/5
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%.

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Improved Eviscerate
Rank: 3/3
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

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Malice
Rank: 5/5
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

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Ruthlessness
Rank: 3/3
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

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Murder
Rank: 2/2
Increases your chance to hit while using Sap, Ambush, Garrote or Cheap Shot by 5%.

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Relentless Strikes
Rank: 1/1
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 Energy.

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Lethality
Rank: 5/5
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike or Hemorrhage by 30%.

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Vile Poisons
Rank: 5/5
Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 15%.

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Improved Instant Poison
Rank: 1/5
Increases the chance to apply instant poison to your target by 2%.

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Cold Blood
Rank: 1/1
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush or Eviscerate by 100%. 3 min cooldown

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Master of Deception
Rank: 5/5
Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in stealth mode. More effective than Master of Deception Rank4

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Camouflage
Rank: 5/5
Increases your speed while stealthed by 15%.

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Initiative
Rank: 5/5
Gives you a 75% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using Ambush, Garrote or Cheap Shot.

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Please leave comments or other random shit or w/e :happy:

OMG just realized i posted it in the wrong part of the WoW forum
Please feel free to move it to the WoW Character Discussion forum part :crazy:

PleaseDie
03-06-2005, 08:55 PM
What are you looking for in your build? Daggers, Swords, Maces, what? And no matter which one you're going for, I would suggest getting lethality (over vile poisons perhaps). I haven't really looked at your build but that's what jumped out at me :p

Demon_Huntah
03-07-2005, 03:21 AM
We're gonna go one big one-handed mace in main hand (for sinister strike spam) and then a really fast dagger in off-hand. So I guess its a Mace / Dagger PvP build.

And we did a calculation that if you have under 30% critical at level 50+ then its more overall DPS increase with poison, thats why we skipped 5 in lethality.

Thx for your respone :)

gismodog
03-07-2005, 05:06 AM
But it's still incredibly valuable.
Why not trade out something else to fill it up?
Like say 3 points of Improved Gouge, and 1 point of Camouflage.

Demon_Huntah
03-07-2005, 06:25 AM
Allright, so we changed to 5 lethality and 1 in Improved instant poison. Thx for the criticism guys!

catfish
03-07-2005, 10:13 AM
hmm, if you two are going to be partying your way up the levels (mostly just he 2 of you) your probably going to be best off with a build based on back stab. basically you trade bs's.

you get one one side of the mob, he gets on the other. when you bs, the mob turns to you, and when he bs's the mob will turn to him. repeat till dead. also ambushes to start wouldn't hurt, or maybe a garrotte or something.

Demon_Huntah
03-07-2005, 10:31 AM
We did that up to like level 15 or something but decided it sucked, so we went with this build instead :S Its not worth paying so much for BS when we arent gonna use it late game anyways

Scy
03-07-2005, 10:38 AM
30% chance to crit for rugue is imbossible.

try this build, if u like maximum dps:

Combat Mastery
Improved Sinister Strike
Rank 2/2
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5.

Lightning Reflexes
Rank 3/5
Increases your Dodge chance by 3%.

Deflection
Rank 5/5
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

Precision
Rank 5/5
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%.

Riposte
Rank 1/1
10 Energy 5 yd range
Instant 6 sec cooldown
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 sec.

Dual Wield Specialization
Rank 5/5
Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 50%.

Mace Specialization
Rank 5/5
Gives you a 6% chance to stun your target for 3 sec with a mace.

Blade Flurry
Rank 1/1
25 Energy
Instant 2 min cooldown
Requires Melee Weapon
Increases your attack speed by 20%. In addition, attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 sec.

Aggression
Rank 3/3
Increases the damage of your Sinister Strike and Eviscerate abilities by 6%.

Combat Total: 30
Assassination Mastery
Malice
Rank 5/5
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

Ruthlessness
Rank 3/3
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

Murder
Rank 2/2
Increases your chance to hit while using your Sap, Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot abilities by 5%.

Relentless Strikes
Rank 1/1
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.

Lethality
Rank 5/5
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.

Vile Poisons
Rank 4/5
Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 12%.

Cold Blood
Rank 1/1
Instant 3 min cooldown
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.

The_Teleporter
03-08-2005, 02:33 AM
Actually max DPS build in game is with Ambush/BS, requires a fair bit of skill to be able to spam SS in PvP but it's worth it.

Class: Rogue
Level: 60


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Assassination Talents (30 points)


Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.


Remorseless Attacks - 5/5 points
After killing an opponent that yields experience, gives you a 40% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike.


Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.


Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.


Murder - 2/2 points
Increases your chance to hit while using your Sap, Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot abilities by 5%.


Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.


Lethality - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.


Cold Blood - 1/1 point
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.


Seal Fate - 5/5 points
Your critical strikes from abilities that add combo points have a 100% chance to add an additional combo point.



Combat Talents (8 points)


Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5 Energy.


Improved Gouge - 3/3 points
Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5 seconds.


Improved Backstab - 3/3 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 30%.



Subtlety Talents (13 points)


Master of Deception - 5/5 points
Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode. More effective than Master of Deception (Rank 4)


Opportunity - 5/5 points
Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Garrote, or Ambush abilities by 20%.


Improved Ambush - 3/3 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 40%.

If u wanna really spam SS I suggest going with either a stunlock build or a Mace Spec with Adrenaline Rush build.