Site Suggestions (please read :( )

[blitz]

hello there rainvision/kidartica etc etc etc

ive been a fan of your site ever since the release of the ROC patch 1.05 . warcraftreplays.com was a really good site, and now wcreplays.com is its counterpart. I had really high hopes for this site when i heard about it but unfortunately you've let me down. I dont really know, the thing being i can't explain what you people are going for, what exactly is wrong with this website. The site being wcreplays.com, shud give me more replays, and less articles, audios, vods etc etc etc. it seems that you guys are going for more of a "flashy" looks adding pics in your replay descriptions etc etc. with the onslaught of your weekly articles, timely VODs and ever repetitive audios, you guys have lost your focus on the thing that has brought you this fame - replays. i used to come to this site everyday for some replay, but now i come almost once in 3-4 days, and you still do not have a new top replay. this is quite sad thinking that sorry sites like www.replayers.com gets a new top replay almost everyday, not to mention that their replays are by far much better. a mix in your replays (like some from kalimdor,northrend etc etc) would always be helpful,because of late i have seen mainly azeroth based ones.
i am NOT saying that your articles/vods/audios are bad, infact i liked quite a few of them, but the fact remains that with so much experimentation and expansion, you guys have completely ignored the replays section. i therefore kindly request you to please improve the quality AND quantity of your replays, by which each succesive visit to your site would give me a reason to come back here again.

Thanks,
Blitz
Member of clan Direcorps,
WCG India Semi-Finalist,
Co-founder of the FTGL.
www.ftgl.cjb.net

[Temari]

Very nice =)

[dez]

i like all the new stuff... but proportionately more replays would be great

[WC_ASD]

i stopped downloading anything from here ages ago. ok i stopped downloading anything about warcraft since almost ever. i only hang out in the forums @_@ but IMo i think the site has rebuilt itself as best as could be

[pootie]

theyre low on replays because the replay staff is WAY understaffed, so they should employ more people for the replay staff

[eFaReL]

IMHO I believe its because they dont have enough "top players or gosus" submitting replays to wcreplays or the replay staff. The reason there is always the same people on the replays over and over because they give their replays to wcreplays, but wcreplays can't make a player that everyone wants to see a replay of hand them their replays just so they can post them for us to watch, the player has to do it on his own.

And the replay staff is not understaffed unless they and or other staff members believe the replay staff needs more staff members. most of us would like it to be understaffed just so kidartica or Rainvision can hire more trial members so we can have once again another shot of becoming a staff member.

[sTr1nG]

I do see where he is coming from, with all these stories and what not, while there are few "Top Replays" posted. In fact, agree with him completly, there are very few posted, not to mention that they are all from the same poeple... I know there are regular replays that are posted a lot more, but everyone wants to see the Top Replays.

[Neeka]

Well yes this site is not warcraftreplays. We have chosen to be more, kind of like the center of all sites with indeed more articles and such.
However I can assure you that we still have about the same amount of fresh replays every day as on the old site. Mayby its less visible because of the new layout and less frontpage updating about the actual replays, but that same layout and programming gave a lot of advantages. Replays are posted more rapidly, you can find replays of your liking much faster, the rating system has improved .. so on.
As for the Replay Staff new staff is being introduced as we speak to fill in the holes we might have had because of some staff leaving. That said I also dont really understand where your coming from.. this site is way better on all grounds in my opinion.

[blam]

:spam: wooooooooooo :disgust:

[Neeka]

thanks for this overwhelming post

[PartisanRanger]

I think this dude is mainly concerned about the layout, as there are basically the same number of replays each day as there were on warcraftreplays.com. Due to these layout changes it takes extra work to find the new replays. I found the old posting of replays much more attractive, but that's my opinion. And yes, I do d/l replays much less than I used to on warcraftreplays.com, but I still think this is a great site. I don't download many of the VODs, audios, or the like, but I do really like the community. It's the community that keeps me coming back.

[IC.Shadow]

I can sum up why I disagree with you in one sentence:

"Why should we be like all the other replay sites and only provide one type of content when we are fully capable of providing many types of content through audios, articles, and interviews?"

Think about it.

[PartisanRanger]

I can sum up why I disagree with you in one sentence:

"Why should we be like all the other replay sites and only provide one type of content when we are fully capable of providing many types of content through audios, articles, and interviews?"

Think about it.
Agreed, to an extent. It wouldn't hurt to make the replays more visible, would it..?

[sTr1nG]

Agreed, to an extent. It wouldn't hurt to make the replays more visible, would it..?

Nor would it hurt to put more up, and i think this site is 10x better then the old one. In fact, this site is better then any other site out there, not trying to put down the site at all, just making a "Suggestion." :chef:

[blitz]

I can sum up why I disagree with you in one sentence:

"Why should we be like all the other replay sites and only provide one type of content when we are fully capable of providing many types of content through audios, articles, and interviews?"

Think about it.


maybe because like more people(with shitty lines) come to such sites for replays than 50 mb VODs
also maybe because you can learn more from a very good replay than from 5 VODs?

audios = awesome rest is kinda like too "flashy" kinda effect cos it gives the impression that your trying to attract more pple by thsese things

quality>content

id rather watch insomnia va fury or sjow or something like that rather than zzat vs jacey.

or maybe its just me......

[IC.Shadow]

WR.com had all the same stuff that we do (except the VOD's, I think), and had 90,000 members. If we can even get to 50,000, we're doing great.

Replays are fine, and every War3 site has them, but we try to add extra things, and it works. 90,000 people can't be wrong.

Also, if you do not like the audios, VOD's, etc., don't download them. Now that we have a fuller replay staff, more replays are getting posted, so download them, and you're good to go.

[blitz]

nice i already see you've taken my suggestion seriously! youve removed the normal replays section and have had an onslaught of top replays!

GG! :P good going guys

[KidArctica]

audios = awesome rest is kinda like too "flashy" kinda effect cos it gives the impression that your trying to attract more pple by thsese things

quality>content

id rather watch insomnia va fury or sjow or something like that rather than zzat vs jacey.
Oh trust me, I am certainly trying to attract more people by adding a variety of written material to the site. I do not think we should put up limits for ourselves, but instead explore the opportunities we have to become a complete site, not "just another replay site".

I find it interesting that you are calling our material flashy. It seems like you do not appreciate our material at all, and you would rather we were a pure replay site. Well, sorry, that is not going to happen. We try to offer something to those who are not just replay addicts as well, but we DO post a solid dose of replays for those who just care about that. How can that possibly be bad?

Also, I am screening and editing all the written material that gets published, and the quality is perfectly fine even though you do not like it.

As for which replays you want to see, well, we all have our favourites, and we cannot all have what we want. If you limit yourself to only watching replays of specific players, then that is your problem, and you should probably go search for the site that gets submissions from those players. We will continue to keep our policy where we only post replays submitted directly to us, or replays from our affiliates. Of course we will try to get a wide variety of submissions, but you can only do so much when players are reluctant to give out replays in general.


nice i already see you've taken my suggestion seriously! youve removed the normal replays section and have had an onslaught of top replays!
Actually, all the replays were there all the time. The problem was people got so stuck up in the "Top Replays" versus "Latest Replays" that they just simply ignored the latter in spite of that being good replays that had been screened by our preppers. So they basically missed a lot of good replays because of that.

"Top Replays" was just supposed to be the "Replays of the Day" feature, not the only thing people should check out. There could be days without us adding a new "top" replay, but we still published a lot of good replays - though people just failed to see it, and complained about a lack of replays in general. We felt it was necessary to point out that all our replays are good. If they were bad, we wouldn't post them.

Hopefully, people will now download a variety of replays instead of only the "replays of the day" replays that were put in the top section. And for those who might whine that "now how do we know what is good?" - well, like I said, they are all good, but those who wants only the best should probably take a look at the rating. Our preppers should all rate the replays once they are done, and that along with the description should give people a perfectly fine indication of what it is like.

[Clanf4.]

Why don't you realize that variety is good. Audio commentaries are enjoyable also. Maybe everything doesn't have to be intended for your "immense" warcraft 3 knowledge and can be enjoyed by everyone, not just people out to brag about how they are more "gosu" then j00 on their warcraft 3 account. I always enjoy listening to REAL people talk about something as trivial as a videogame because these games were intended,afterall, for enjoyment and to break away. Not everything has to be at such a high standard as to teach you how to master the art of strategy gaming. This is a FREE sight also. We aren't paying these wonderful people to teach us how to play this game, so give them a little lei-way and let them teach us how they want to teach us. Better yet, if you really want to see how gosu's play, instead of watching why don't you practice your skill and eventually you will get good enough to watch the gosus, because you will be playing them. You will also gain your own playing style instead of conforming to standard counters.

[Goonster]

This site RoXors way more than WR.com so do not even try to compare them! Also I like what you did with the replays since now news on the frontpage does not get bumped as fast and often as if you posted them on the frontpage.

If you want certain people's replays you have to find a site that host them. www.warcraftsanctuary.com holds alot of replays from people in clan aF. www.warcraftstrategy.com host alot of replays that you can download for free as well from a different crowd of people. Just have to find what you are looking for and do not be so bitchy about free things.

[shiver-]

im with WC_ASD, i havent dled a replay in monthssssssss

[PartisanRanger]

I agree with KidArctica, the focus should remain on not being "your everyday replay site" and offer a wide variety of Warcraft-related material that is helpful and interesting.

[PainInMyBrain]

I really enjoy the site. In fact, i have become biased, by only comming here, and making all my friends here too. This site is the best all around warcraft there is, the audios are flowing in at a rapid rate, and the staff keeps growing. My ONLY problems here has got to be the lack of: Not showing new Fanart on the front page, and the lack of interviews/articles. I can understand how Audios would cut down on the amount of articles, as they are basically read to you with a replay, but i enjoy reading content as well. You guys are good at keeping up with the clan activities, and have a great staff, even though u guys hate me, i look up to your staff. Thanks for being a great website.

[Tank.]

IMHO.

:schmoll:

[PeOnZ]

If there are just as many new replays as with the old site. It's certainly not clearly presented. Sure, all the other stuff is great but I beleive this site should pay more attention to the thing that gave it 90k members to begin with. Replays. Newbs who want to learn do not ask their friends "Hey where can I find audios and vods?" Chances are they've never heard of vods.

If you don't agree then you need to change the name of the site.

This is wcreplays.com. Not wcarticles.com or wcaudiocommentaries.com.

Before anyone tries to strangle me, let's make sure you understand what I am trying to say. I am trying to say that YES the variety is good, but the replays need more exposure than they're getting. (The replays themselves could use some variety too)

[dez]

wccontent.com

[siLk]

I've stayed out of this thread until now because I feel it is fairly rediculous. I am not sure what you people expect? We are not going to update everyday with 3 replays or 27 replays, they are not going to have flashing red lights on them, they are not going to whisper into your ear how they are new... How we update is absolutely no different than these other websites do it "right" except we also provide you with a huge amount of extra content as well. For fucks sake, how can you complain about a replay that is uploaded MINUTES after it is played on battle.net?!

In the nearly 2 months we have been live (58 days now!) we have uploaded 570 replays, which is an average of 9.5 replays / day. Obviously all those replays are not going to appeal to everyone, but at least 2-3 out of every update should

We are not going to have a list of 20 replays on on the front page, and then have the EXACT SAME LIST DIRECTLY TO THE RIGHT OF IT. This is just stupid and does not make sense. On ANY daily update, you can click the 'Read More' link to get the replays that were uploaded the day before so...

As for the name of the site, c'mon people. What does VoD require? A replay, or at least a game of war3. What does an Audio require? Oh, thats right, a replay. What do the strategy articles have? Oh, REPLAYS AGAIN. Interviews? Yep, you guessed it, Replays. Wow, maybe there is something to that name after all and we are not the morons you would think by reading this thread.

Name me 1 other site that keeps you updated on the Clan Scene like KidA does? None. In fact, warcraftstrategy has linked to KidA's news articles more than once, and that is coming from one of the war3 sites that has been around the longest and *SHOULD* have a lot of great connections (you have to pay $$$ for all there content!)

Yes, I am a little frustrated by you people because there seems to be no pleasing you. Oh well, the site is how it is, and it's not going to change much from here on out I think, if you don't like how it is now, then leave, we can do without the complaints.

[Vilencia]

I would quote the above, but its kinda long so I wont...
I think that the site is a little low on repays though, perhaps more staff would help this, not really for me to say. The new site has less then the old site REPLAY wise... Everything else is about 1000x better (Audios anyone? are about the most amazing things and there is usually more then 5 a week). I am talking about top player replays such as from Bei and the sorts available in the replay section. Thats great and all that there are replays in Vods/articles and such but replays individually in their respective section would be nice. Dont flame I love this site believe me, its amazing but I do see room for improvement!

Constructive criticism
^^

[sTr1nG]

Yes, I am a little frustrated by you people because there seems to be no pleasing you. Oh well, the site is how it is, and it's not going to change much from here on out I think, if you don't like how it is now, then leave, we can do without the complaints.

"Suggestions" not complaints, if you dont like them then delete the "Suggestion" Thread.

[KidArctica]

PeOnZ, I am sorry, but I think you are too stuck up in a name. Basically, you are saying if we called ourselves warcraftmaterial.com (or whatever), then you would have no complaints, but since we call ourselves wcreplays.com, then we cannot offer people much other content because "omg there is more content than replays"? That is ridiculous.

It is not like we do not have replays, quite on the contrary, we post several every single day - and now they are even added to the front page updates if people can just be bothered to click "read more".

I am sorry to disappoint you, but we are not going to change the name of our site. I guess you will just have to deal with the name being what it is.

Finally, this site never had 90k members, we are a totally new site and have nothing to do with the old warcraftreplays.com.

str1ng, we do not mind constructive criticism, but some things are just ridiculous. Besides, many "suggestions" are really not suggestions, just mindless criticism. ; ]

[IC.Shadow]

If there are just as many new replays as with the old site. It's certainly not clearly presented. Sure, all the other stuff is great but I beleive this site should pay more attention to the thing that gave it 90k members to begin with. Replays. Newbs who want to learn do not ask their friends "Hey where can I find audios and vods?" Chances are they've never heard of vods.
I've never once been spammed asking for replays, yet I've had approximately 40 people ask me for audios and 5-10 asking me where to find good articles, so sorry, but I disagree there.

[slayer]

IMO this site is still great, probably the best Warcrsft site around. The articles give a really good insight into the game. From audios i have learnt many new things that i would never have picked up by myself, as well as being able to hear things from another players perspective. The audios do get a little repetitive but i see that the site is always getting new staff. The only feature i myself don't really like are the vods, imo replays>vods, but thats just my opinion, i'm sure a lot of people enjoy them. So to sum it all up, ur doing a great job wcreplays, keep it up! :)

On a side note it may sound stupid but could there be less members here than warcraftreplays.com had because not all the old members know about this site? I mean it took me about a month to find this site, and the only reason i found it was cuz i saw a post on it on the battle.net forums o_O.

[IC.Shadow]

On a side note it may sound stupid but could there be less members here than warcraftreplays.com had because not all the old members know about this site?
Yes, and since Prodigy keeps paying his bills for the sole purpose of keeping that "Under Construction" banner up for the rest of eternity, there's nothing we can do about it. We can't even use the old site to link here until Prodigy stops paying the bills. He is such a loser. :(

[DemonFireFury]

WR.com had all the same stuff that we do (except the VOD's, I think), and had 90,000 members. If we can even get to 50,000, we're doing great.

Replays are fine, and every War3 site has them, but we try to add extra things, and it works. 90,000 people can't be wrong.

Also, if you do not like the audios, VOD's, etc., don't download them. Now that we have a fuller replay staff, more replays are getting posted, so download them, and you're good to go.


and im proud to be one of the 90,000!! :)

I think the reason u think there is the lack of replays(which there isnt) is because people arent submiting as much

[IC.Shadow]

I am going to Purpose a plan. I had a recent encounter with a staff member, and it was not pleasent. I feel that he had an attutude that he was better than me just for being staff, and I do not appreciate it. This sites ventrilo server, has about a gajillion staff rooms, and 3 (now 4), pulic rooms. I can understand your point in wanting your own rooms and such. But why not have a "staff" room, and then others are public.
We just switched Vent servers, or at least KidA did. They are now upgraded.
PS- this will probably be deleted and i will be banned for simply stating pure, unaltered facts. I will save this verbatum, and repost it if it gets deleted, so we can all have it. I will make that site far for everyone. GG staff member who deletes it, ur just proving me right.
That's the stupidest bullshit I have ever read. No one is going to delete your posts or ban you, especially since half of your post made no sense, and it never insulted anyone. You are the one with the attitude problem if you are going to come here and make comments implying that we abuse ops and powers and censor people. That is complete crap.

[IC.Shadow]

I use to look up to you guys, but i relized you are a bunch of stuck up worthless fucks, who dont care about us, just so as you feel more important.
Yup, that's why we spend 2-6 hours of our time here, EVERYDAY for FREE simply to put good content out there for ungrateful people like you. Yeah, we hate you all. Good call.

[IC.Shadow]

wanna bet, i posted 3 times in the open mic night, and all of them got deleted. I asked for the 10-11 spot b4 anyone else did, but sumhow they dissapear? thats right. i if u switched servers, why are there so many ppl in the old one? thats right.
Talk to Lidow.
i dont quite recall saying u hate us, ur just stuck up.
Have you ever spoken to me once? Ever? And yet you are judging me. ok man....

Look at me, everyone! I'm stuck up, and I hate you all!! I only devote 4 hours of my life to serving you and this website everyday, but yeah, I hate everyone! PainInMyBrain is a genious!!!

/sarcasm

[AndThree]

... just most of the people most of the time...

[PainInMyBrain]

NOTE OF APPOLOGY:

My friend Intolerance just claimed to have a conversation with the staff, and and he said I was completely misunderstanding staffs position. From summing up what railz said to him, i understand now that i was wrong, and would like to apologize for my harsh thrashing out. Please forgive me.

[KidArctica]

I am going to Purpose a plan. I had a recent encounter with a staff member, and it was not pleasent. I feel that he had an attutude that he was better than me just for being staff, and I do not appreciate it. This sites ventrilo server, has about a gajillion staff rooms, and 3 (now 4), pulic rooms. I can understand your point in wanting your own rooms and such. But why not have a "staff" room, and then others are public. It seperates the staff and its sites members. On more than one occasion, I was wanting to just tell them a simple "good job on *insert new content on sire here*", or "i have a suggestion", but got denied. I use to look up to you guys, but i relized you are a bunch of stuck up worthless fucks, who dont care about us, just so as you feel more important. I also understand that railz runs it, and it is his, so he can do whatever he so chooses with it, but this has gotten out of hand. So, back to the plan. I will be taking any e-mails, AIM's, or w/e, to make a new site that will be better than this one.

There are two Ventrilo servers associated with this site. One of them is run by Railz, one of them is run by me. Mine was until now run off my own computer, but due to the Ventrilo software update, I got a paid one instead.

The thing is, both Railz and myself pay monthly to have our servers. Mine was never intended to be a public server, in fact, it was made for myself, for my friends and for the staff members. I never gave out my information to anyone but my own friends and the staff, still the server got flooded by people I had no idea who were. To be nice, I let staff members also invite their friends to the server. But in the end, we had friends of friends of friends of friends, and that just sucks, because many of those who logged on did not even know who owned the site.

And that is in fact part of the reason why there are many password protected rooms on the servers. People come there for PRIVACY, to have a place where they can do work or talk with their friends only, and not with anyone who has access to the server. Some do interviews in their channels. Many come there to use the server while they are playing 2s, and then they do not want anyone but their partner in their room - so one room won't cut it. Sure they can use a public room, but if they have random people just entering their channel while they are playing or working - even if those persons are just going to compliment them or ask them a question - then that gets damn annoying. I want to be able to choose who to talk to on my own Ventrilo server, and I will also give my friends that privilege.

If you want to contact staff members, then you have plenty of ways to do so. You can send them emails, you can send them a private message, you can try to contact them on BNet or you can make a post dedicated to them. You can also comment on Ventrilo and say that you want to talk to a specific person if possible. However, demanding to get passwords to private password protected channels to do it? That is ridiculous.

I am sorry to burst your bubble, but I for instance, do not even give out my channel's password to all the staff members. And when I do not even give them out to people I know, why on earth would I give it to someone I do NOT know?

Bottom line, I think you should actually be glad that the servers are not closed to everyone but staff. Personally, I let people invite their friends to be nice, not to have them whine about not getting into the private channels. But if that becomes the trend, maybe I'd rather make it all private.

Good luck on making your own site, by the way.

[PainInMyBrain]

i appologized, i understand that now thanks to intolerance

[IC.Shadow]

lol.....