One Mans Trash Is Another Ones Tresure

[Enyce]

no i dont play in dota leagues but there are certain heroes ive never seen dominate a game.. such as enigma, ogre magi, lord avernus. but is there any certain ways to dominate with themr ather than ks ing? :D

[AvengerxZ]

Enigma dominates by being a support hero. That is his role in almost every game played by a decent player. Lord of Avernus has alot of survivability and not much in the department of hero killing but he is great for saving teammates or increasing the attack speed of friendly heroes with mark of the abyss. Ogre Magi, again, is a support hero but can get insane amounts of kills if you are lucky. Multicast at level 3 with Aghanims is one of the highest damage nukes in the game, and it costs very little mana and has a very short cooldown. So to answer your question, yes, all of these heroes can be ownage to a degree and all have their very apparent perks.

[Lethal*]

I cannot believe you've never seen a dominating Ogre Magi. He is always the hero to do the best in all my games, even when on losing team.
Enigma can be awesome with the 'right player.' Usually the 'right player' will get a blink dagger and wont miss on the Black Hole.

[Enyce]

nope theres more heros that ive never seen do well like the new witch doctor.. the dryad (4got her name) ive also NEVER seen tiny do well.. the heroes i see do the best is ofc SA, PA, VS, Sniper, Lycan, Razor, Clinkz, Drow, Night stalker ect..

[mroZoZrout]

nope theres more heros that ive never seen do well like the new witch doctor.. the dryad (4got her name) ive also NEVER seen tiny do well.. the heroes i see do the best is ofc SA, PA, VS, Sniper, Lycan, Razor, Clinkz, Drow, Night stalker ect..
have u ever play dota man?? Enchantress (driad) is really good(maybe god :naughty: )her ulti is awesome.

and tiny. with aegis. hmmm no meel can kill him coz of his stuning armor :)

[Dishonru]

nope theres more heros that ive never seen do well like the new witch doctor.. the dryad (4got her name) ive also NEVER seen tiny do well.. the heroes i see do the best is ofc SA, PA, VS, Sniper, Lycan, Razor, Clinkz, Drow, Night stalker ect..How could you never see Tiny do good? His nuke combo is amazing. On top of that he is an extremely good melee farmer due to his high base damage. Plus if you save your grows you can spam skills like no tommorow, which is imbalanced. That is just caster build tiny, if you go for a more melee orientated build he is an absolute monster as well.
witch doctorI have no idea how a character with an amazing stun, a damage over time skill that makes people lose additional hp for every 100 damage they take, and an ultimate that deals obscene dps could possibly ever be good. Oh wait, nevermind.
enigmaSimply amazing hero. Midnight Pulse is good through out the game, malefice is great, and black hole is great.
ogre magiMediocore hero. He is just an up front damage dealing caster.
avernusTrash in 6.28, haven't got to see his changes in 6.29 yet.

[p2L-IntrepiD]

Ive seen so many games with tiny going hex, dagger, and refresher and owning everything.

[frapman]

i h8 the ogre magi because he relies upon luck to own, and i absolutely none of it... 1 for 59 multi-casts in one game... and yes avernus is supposed to be a hero killer, but isnt becus of low base attack, and move speed.

[Blaster]

I thought the topic was about a team's feeder is my team's food.

Anyway, some heroes aren't meant to dominate(dominate as in killing of heroes). They provide support for the team to kill or pull off a combo. Egnima, especially, is a team-orientated hero.

[blaze]

Lots of heroes that are mentioned here (Enigma, Ogre Magi to name a few) are generally not meant to be hero killers. That's not to say it's impossible to do so, as it really depends on the tactics you use.

If you play the Ogre Magi in a solo lane against an Agility hero with Boots of Speed first, you're going to get ruckused. However, if you are playing with pretty much any other hero that has a ranged stun (or even something like a WarStomp), Ogre can be pretty devastating. His nuke is incredibly high damage, and he can slow you down as you run away, then just wait for the last hit for the kill.

When you're playing with any of these 'support' heroes, one of the most vital things you can do early game is be overly agressive, especially with Intelligence heroes. Keeping your opponents running back to the fountain means that you are getting loads more EXP than they are, not to mention gold. Just nuke as often as possible once you hit level 3, making sure you have some clarity potions on hand to replenish your mana. As a rule of thumb, aim for Agility heroes first, then Intelligence, then Strength (although AGI/INTEL are interchangable depending on how the specific hero is being played).

[Raven.Icon]

Every hero in dota can be godlike if u no how to use em.

Some heros' ur gonna be like, yea right, that peice of shit is gonna do what? Trust me, i used to think the same way too, that some heros are more imbal then others, but then i realized, it depends on the player.

Even heros u consider crap can be awsome, but some heros do require 2 players working together to be godlike. But then afterall, dota is a team game. just like basketball, a pg dosnet do much scoring, rebouding, etc, but he is the crucial factor of how a game turns out, etc.

Every hero can be godlike but u got to know how to use them and also fit the type of profile needed to play that character.

Also dont associate pub w/ skill, pub is the most boring thing on earth. Pub games only takes 2 clicking brain cells to win. League/clan/lan games w/ good players is a true skill game and the only time i would consider dota to be a skilled game.

[CombatSmurf]

Am I the only one facinated by Enigma's "Conversion" skill?
Its not only a great way to deny your opponent XP and gold, but also an excellent way to make sure you get last hit on red hp creeps.
The Eidolons can furthermore be used effectively for hitting your own red hp creeps.

I've used this many times to devastating effect - at one point playing alone vs Clinkz and Pugna, i popped level 11, with both of them being level 5.

[Irashoran]

Ogre is fantastic and Tiny is awesome.

[gasolin]

hero like lord of avernus can't be godlike. his only purpose is a support hero that can save allies with his spell that absorbs damage. other then that he can't do much.

[Ethereal_GoSu]

ummm... Tiny is teh Ownage, Played a tda last night and my lich got absolutely ahnialated by a tiny/techies combo ....... Throw - suicide is UBER dmg, he just thew him at me, suicided, revived, bought a tp, rinse and repeat lol

[mroZoZrout]

ummm... Tiny is teh Ownage, Played a tda last night and my lich got absolutely ahnialated by a tiny/techies combo ....... Throw - suicide is UBER dmg, he just thew him at me, suicided, revived, bought a tp, rinse and repeat lol

lol nice combo

[Blaster]

The bad thing about DoTA is, support heroes aren't recognised.
When people determine your DoTA skill, it is through how many heroes you kill.

[gasolin]

The bad thing about DoTA is, support heroes aren't recognised.
When people determine your DoTA skill, it is through how many heroes you kill.
yeah, that's true.

[mroZoZrout]

The bad thing about DoTA is, support heroes aren't recognised.
When people determine your DoTA skill, it is through how many heroes you kill.
not every time. I never speak about being pro, skilled etc. Its all about team and team spirit. in many games u even dont have to write anything just one signal and everythink is so natural and smooth. but another game its like people are from stone...

and another idea. Many times a lot of ppl flamnig 4 killstealing but its better to kill that to let him escape. I never do that i am glad we managed 2 kille any1 (and i dont care if i or he/she get kill). its all about team/players

[p2L-IntrepiD]

Am I the only one facinated by Enigma's "Conversion" skill?
Its not only a great way to deny your opponent XP and gold, but also an excellent way to make sure you get last hit on red hp creeps.
The Eidolons can furthermore be used effectively for hitting your own red hp creeps.

I've used this many times to devastating effect - at one point playing alone vs Clinkz and Pugna, i popped level 11, with both of them being level 5.

His conversion skill is good however a good player will nuke his summons as they are very low on hp and give about ~45 gold each which is like a regular creep.

[elus1ve]

ironically i achieved a 25+/8 ratio for the first and last time with the ogre magi after weeks of being owned on dota.

[SySShark]

Tiny+Techies with throw is lolz! How about Pudge with techies? Hook+suicide+rot = Ouch; early game too! Down with techies! *off topic*. I like the Phantom Lancer, Magnataur, and Pudge (before he got popular and over used! <--oldskewl!) The quillboar is allot of fun too, satanic/mkb/bkb ect...

[G-Blunted]

I don't know what you eman about lord avernus...I wtfpwn with him every time I get him!! And I always pwn without dying once!! Which gets me good items which makes me pwn more!! I really like that hero...