Sange and Yasha Maim

[Elemental.]

What exactly does the 10% maim do on the Sange and Yasha item? Does it work on heros? Thanks

[doob10163]

It slows their movement speed and makes the unit/hero take more damage. Yes it works on heros.

[coin_BA]

Does it work on heros?

:whistling

[simiwizard]

It slows their movement speed and makes the unit/hero take more damage. Yes it works on heros.

i'm sure it decreases movespeed and attackspeed, and it doesnt make the unit/hero take more damage

[KoGs]

The description on it doesn't say anything about decreasing your opponents movement speed. It says it increases your own speed. It also says it gives a chance to penetrate the opponents armour, thus getting more damage. I think of it like critical strike.

[ticked]

I thought it made the unit/hero take more dmg as in like when u maim it's an extra 90 dmg or something (kinda like a crit strike). Either way i think it's a crappy orb effect, i only get s&y for early hp and late game ms.

[doob10163]

The description on it doesn't say anything about decreasing your opponents movement speed. It says it increases your own speed. It also says it gives a chance to penetrate the opponents armour, thus getting more damage. I think of it like critical strike.

Yes it does. Maim does exactly that.

[KoGs]

Hahaha so it does.

[DemiMagus]

Well it does slow the hero down also... Thats one of the only reasons why i somtimes get it.

[The_Teleporter]

Naix without SnY is a crappy Naix!

[Ashura]

Naix without SnY is a crappy Naix!

http://www.wcreplays.com/pub_replays.php?get=28900

No.

My 29-1 Naix thinks otherwise. (I only had Sange I didn't go Yasha, but it's close enough) ^^

[sir_icemaster]

Effect: Maim
10% chance, -35% attack speed
-35% movement speed for 6 sec,
and that's all.
The description on it doesn't say anything about decreasing your opponents movement speed. It says it increases your own speed. It also says it gives a chance to penetrate the opponents armour, thus getting more damage. I think of it like critical strike.
Well, maim only decrease ms and attack speed. It's not like a crit, it doesn't penetrate armor and it doesn't make more dmg. Also bonus ms comes from blazing fast (Yasha) not from maim.

[orcdemolisher]

SnY is a lot to farm up but coupled with skadi on a ranged hero it owns other's faces in..

[lama123]

maim=the target hero will bleed and move slower...dunno if the bleeding will cause more dmg/lose hp like posion...etc. but I'm 100% sure it slows the opponent

[Turbo164]

I think maim used to do like 40 damage or something, don't think it does anymore. The slow is great though.

S&Y is nice on a lot of heros. Take Sven for example: Hits really hard in melee, but if your opponent can't toe-to-toe you, they just run, and the only time you can hit them is the 2 seconds after you storm bolt. S&Y means if you proc a maim during the stunned time, you get a LOT more hits on them, and can easily maim/bolt several more times.

Plus no piece costs more than 1000 (don't have to try to farm 2600 at once) and it gives hp, damage, attack speed, run speed...for many heroes it's more useful than the 'other' disabling items, Euls/Guinsoo and Diffusal (ever see a sheepstick on naix?). The speed bonus with boots of travel also guarantees you top 400 runspeed (Morphling hits 401.5, Chaos is 456.5)

[RonaldC]

Is maim an orb effect, so that it will not stack with Satanic's vamparic orb effect?

[Turbo164]

Is maim an orb effect, so that it will not stack with Satanic's vamparic orb effect?

They should both say "Orb Affect" in red letters...

Incase the editor left it off: They are both orbs, and will not stack.

Sange, like Maelstrom, will 'stack' with many hero orbs like Veno and Naix poison, Sandking Caustic, etc. You have a 90% chance to do the hero skill, 10% to maim instead. If Naix poisons AND maims a target, they are slowed by 75%...pwnt.

[lama123]

Sange, like Maelstrom, will 'stack' with many hero orbs like Veno and Naix poison, Sandking Caustic, etc. You have a 90% chance to do the hero skill, 10% to maim instead. If Naix poisons AND maims a target, they are slowed by 75%...pwnt.

are you sure? @@....considering regular ladder games...an orb effect is like searing arrow, dark arrow, and other orbs...and when u buy orb+use any of those skills, the orb won't have any effect...same thing happens for 2 orbs..only one go into effect. Now Naix's, Broodmother's posion IS NOT AN ORB EFFECT, (they are like bash and critical strike..which is not an orb at all but passive skill)....so I still think u have 100% chance to hit out the naix slow posion...just that you have additional 10% to maim.....On the other hand, Sandking's Caustic IS AN ORB EFFECT and either the maim will never happen or the Caustic will never happen. I don't think the editor ever leaves out if it's an orb effect or not. btw, that's why I always buy battlefury+basher+one orb effect item on my jugg :>

[doob10163]

Maim only inteferes in the hit that it maims last time I checked... or was that for bash?

[Proj]

Doesn't maim works like purges slow? It slows u and u slowly get ur speed back. And ofcourse no dispel effect.