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pascal3000
12-31-2008, 10:49 AM
Seriously, this is just ridiculous

http://www.wcreplays.com/page?section=pub_replays&id=77457

The.Carry
12-31-2008, 11:00 AM
awesome thread title

Ponen
12-31-2008, 11:04 AM
U lost ur am stupidly there when t2 hit and lost it again after buying it from tavern

You started building sanctums when orc already had raiders+sw coming

Terrible second hero choice, FL did nothing in last fight cuz spirit walkers.

Imagine if u had had lvl 4 mountain king there instead

golden
12-31-2008, 01:47 PM
Bad micro, bad macro, as longer the game as more difficult the game becomes to end it with towerrush... FL is for towering, but if you run with some footys am+fl to enemies base u get just .... well owned

[Username]
12-31-2008, 02:06 PM
First of all, unless you had a spectacular early game, never FL second. It's only for an immediate tower push given you killed a couple of grunts or a hero early.

Also a dead level 4 BM should result in you either creeping a level advantage, immediately calling militia and towering them, teching, or setting up another expo. Capitalize on your opponents' mistakes, don't let him just get away with them.

Elite_Stealth
12-31-2008, 06:42 PM
Human on terenas stand against orc is a very strong matchup. If you can creep and get lvl 3 at t1 or early t2, then get a MK and 3 sorc 1 priest or 2 sorc 2 priest and magic sentry + 3 pocket towers and go push him.

Its a lot more complicated but in general this works.

If your going firelord second you need to tower rush right when he got out, and not wait for casters. The firelord push means you have extra foots, lvl 3 arch(hopefully) firelord 3 pocket towers dust a healing potion on arch and 6 militia coming in to tower. You should be able to cancel his t2 building and kill some burrows. After that its just standard push tactics

edit: watched rep now

When you went into push you didnt have a healing potion on your arch, and you led your army with him and he got picked off NP, twice in one minute. You need to protect your heroes better

Also, your creep pattern at start was fucked up. You need to creep the shop right after the lab (and the small green next to lab). You crept the far green first which cost you level 3, gave your opponent a LS, and gave him a lvl 5 creep to steal. You can complain about imbalance if you like, but your wrong. Its a tough matchup, but on TS this is in humans favor.