ProGamers Comments on Patch

kyloc · 07-03-2008, 07:24 AM

I dont know if this was posted before here are some pro-gamers comments on patch:

http://www.fnatic.com/news/2801/Ladi...e-a-patch.html

very good comments...

Elite_Stealth · 07-03-2008, 07:35 AM

nice

suprised the humans didnt think the patch was all too bad -- demu even said it was completely necessary

only player who complained was shriek, but what do you expect from the king of towermassing (although i do agree with what he said :p)

sad too see no tod

***RedRagToAnOrc*** · 07-03-2008, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elite_Stealth

suprised the humans didnt think the patch was all too bad -- demu even said it was completely necessary

Demu and Shriek have always been realistic about what needs buffing/nerfing, apart from Demu's "remove Elf" comments.

Infernal · 07-03-2008, 08:41 AM

i cant seem to access the link

could someone post the replies here please?;O

***RedRagToAnOrc*** · 07-03-2008, 08:43 AM

Link's broken for me too now. Site must be down.

LighT]SwiTcH · 07-03-2008, 10:05 AM

Fnatic.Shy

The patch just decreased some things for nightelf. I think mirror/vs orc/vs human wouldn't chance as last patch. But vs ud will be harder because mass Dryads used to be the main strategy of so many nightelf players. Also Orb of Venom being weakend underlines this thinking. Nightelf players have to find some special strategy and I think we can do. The Patch isn't everything, winners are still made by player's ability. Good Luck to all.

Fnatic.Focus

I don't have the feeling that the patch changed much in WarCraft 3. The nightelf heroes are less strong with this Staff of Preservation-nerf, it seams as if Blizzard got the running point with this nerf. Nonetheless many things have to be changed. For Orc for example nothing changed.

PGS.Shriek

The patch does not have enough changes, especially considering it is six months overdue. The knight buff does not make up for the staff nerf, and human did not receive any other buffs to compensate for the tower nerf. Steam tanks should have had an experience increase.
The changes to Night Elf are good, but there should have also been minor nerfs to UD and Orc, so that elf can fight against strategies like mass gargs. Breath of fire definitely needs a mana increase as well.
Also, it's really irresponsible for Blizzard to add maps like TFT Lost Temple without removing wand of lightning shield, a change that they made on other maps previously.

PGS.Demuslim

Seems really good so far - from first impression I saw the maps and was kind of anxious as to test them out, SV being added is a massive bonus and the other maps I will try out (will be fun!). BUT LT has turned ice - and the items from the goldmine creeps are like the old ones (LS/Sentry ward etc). I'm not overly keen on that.
Ping is generally alot better, closer to ggc terms now and I haven't really noticed any massive nerf to human so its good.
Tower repair was insane before, the new nerf was a neccessity rather than a change. - It shouldn't affect my gameplay too much if at all. The only thing I can see it being harder against is a fiend push with dk/naga, Tower rushing orc t1 or t2 and close pos vs elfs. Apart from that I'm ok with it.

hoorai.Sein

Wow, finally. I think it is cool, all the new features like the savegame and healtbar thing too. I don't know much about the maps yet, anyway it seems cool with so many maps to choose from in battle.net. And you will totally see me fighting top 100 rank in ladder to get into season 6.

Srs.Nightwolf

My first reaction is, NEW MAPS! and of course nerfed staff, which means I can’t abuse staff anymore. The changes for elf are bad, but I’m glad to see fixed towers. Maybe the game is finally balanced now. I only played two maps so far but I didn’t liked both. Though it’s good that secret valley is finally added to the ladder map pool. I have good motivation with the new patch and I’m going to play the ladder seriously with the aim to qualify. New patch, New ladder.

Karog · 07-03-2008, 10:24 AM

rofl they asked lloth

someone said shriek the towermasser complained ,but he actually brought up soem valid points

LaughingSkull · 07-03-2008, 10:48 AM

The didn't ask a single UD.

4e.Realhope · 07-03-2008, 11:15 AM

LOL.. have any of you tried fighting stupid zigs yet? It turned into my army with only 1 raider for ensnare vs his 5 acos repairign and 3 towers.. I felt like I was vs human, when they all repaired something, other than the ensnared one, it wouldnnnnn't die!

Mad_Madness · 07-03-2008, 11:19 AM

Did lag on bnet ladder really decrease? If so I might actually start playing ladder again.

Kiezel · 07-03-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad_Madness

Did lag on bnet ladder really decrease? If so I might actually start playing ladder again.

Well, it only costed me 6 heroes so far and I played 4 games already so it indeadly got better.

spillai · 07-03-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiezel

Well, it only costed me 6 heroes so far and I played 4 games already so it indeadly got better.

qq. if you choose to play on bnet dont bitch...i can play on kalimdor from the states and its not that bad.

zedman1991 · 07-03-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spillai

qq. if you choose to play on bnet dont bitch...i can play on kalimdor from the states and its not that bad.

Probably because your not good enough for lag to even matter.

Infernal · 07-03-2008, 02:19 PM

and kiezel is?

ggNoRe · 07-03-2008, 02:40 PM

I only get lag on the east server.

golden · 07-03-2008, 02:56 PM

Again no Moon/sky/lucifer and other gosus player's comments.

=<

HenL · 07-03-2008, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4e.Realhope

LOL.. have any of you tried fighting stupid zigs yet? It turned into my army with only 1 raider for ensnare vs his 5 acos repairign and 3 towers.. I felt like I was vs human, when they all repaired something, other than the ensnared one, it wouldnnnnn't die!

See you shouldn't post bs based on something you perceived in one game.. Towers have ALWAYS been 5 armor. Only unupgraded ziggurats have been buffed(and even they were 5 armor in many many patches before they were nerfed for no apparent reason) to 5 armor just like wells, burrows and farms have. Some tips: if your army is small enough to only have 1 raider you probably shouldn't be fighting 3 towers backed by 5 workers =).

LowKeyLyesmith · 07-03-2008, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden

Again no Moon/sky/lucifer and other gosus player's comments.

=<

You want comments like:"yes/no", "I think this game is balanced"?
Because that`s all you get from those asians...

DontHarmCreeps · 07-03-2008, 07:08 PM

Having steam tanks give more experience means nothing if you have no buildings.

A patch that forces NE and HU to do something else, and of course it's mostly complaints from the abusers

From UD perspective

ex0duz · 07-05-2008, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowKeyLyesmith

You want comments like:"yes/no", "I think this game is balanced"?
Because that`s all you get from those asians...

lol, they should get creo to comment, or a good UD.

07-03-2008, 07:24 AM	#1
kyloc 100 Point Level Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 165	ProGamers Comments on Patch I dont know if this was posted before here are some pro-gamers comments on patch: http://www.fnatic.com/news/2801/Ladi...e-a-patch.html very good comments...

07-03-2008, 07:35 AM	#2
Elite_Stealth 1000 Point Level Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,103	nice suprised the humans didnt think the patch was all too bad -- demu even said it was completely necessary only player who complained was shriek, but what do you expect from the king of towermassing (although i do agree with what he said :p) sad too see no tod Last edited by Elite_Stealth; 07-03-2008 at 06:45 PM.

07-03-2008, 08:43 AM	#5
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07-03-2008, 10:05 AM	#6
LighT]SwiTcH 500 Point Level Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 575	Fnatic.Shy The patch just decreased some things for nightelf. I think mirror/vs orc/vs human wouldn't chance as last patch. But vs ud will be harder because mass Dryads used to be the main strategy of so many nightelf players. Also Orb of Venom being weakend underlines this thinking. Nightelf players have to find some special strategy and I think we can do. The Patch isn't everything, winners are still made by player's ability. Good Luck to all. Fnatic.Focus I don't have the feeling that the patch changed much in WarCraft 3. The nightelf heroes are less strong with this Staff of Preservation-nerf, it seams as if Blizzard got the running point with this nerf. Nonetheless many things have to be changed. For Orc for example nothing changed. PGS.Shriek The patch does not have enough changes, especially considering it is six months overdue. The knight buff does not make up for the staff nerf, and human did not receive any other buffs to compensate for the tower nerf. Steam tanks should have had an experience increase. The changes to Night Elf are good, but there should have also been minor nerfs to UD and Orc, so that elf can fight against strategies like mass gargs. Breath of fire definitely needs a mana increase as well. Also, it's really irresponsible for Blizzard to add maps like TFT Lost Temple without removing wand of lightning shield, a change that they made on other maps previously. PGS.Demuslim Seems really good so far - from first impression I saw the maps and was kind of anxious as to test them out, SV being added is a massive bonus and the other maps I will try out (will be fun!). BUT LT has turned ice - and the items from the goldmine creeps are like the old ones (LS/Sentry ward etc). I'm not overly keen on that. Ping is generally alot better, closer to ggc terms now and I haven't really noticed any massive nerf to human so its good. Tower repair was insane before, the new nerf was a neccessity rather than a change. - It shouldn't affect my gameplay too much if at all. The only thing I can see it being harder against is a fiend push with dk/naga, Tower rushing orc t1 or t2 and close pos vs elfs. Apart from that I'm ok with it. hoorai.Sein Wow, finally. I think it is cool, all the new features like the savegame and healtbar thing too. I don't know much about the maps yet, anyway it seems cool with so many maps to choose from in battle.net. And you will totally see me fighting top 100 rank in ladder to get into season 6. Srs.Nightwolf My first reaction is, NEW MAPS! and of course nerfed staff, which means I can’t abuse staff anymore. The changes for elf are bad, but I’m glad to see fixed towers. Maybe the game is finally balanced now. I only played two maps so far but I didn’t liked both. Though it’s good that secret valley is finally added to the ladder map pool. I have good motivation with the new patch and I’m going to play the ladder seriously with the aim to qualify. New patch, New ladder. __________________

07-03-2008, 10:24 AM	#7
Karog 400 Point Level Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 466	rofl they asked lloth someone said shriek the towermasser complained ,but he actually brought up soem valid points __________________ BNet acc on Northrend is El-Manana; http://classic.battle.net/war3/ladde...Name=El-Manana

07-03-2008, 10:48 AM	#8
LaughingSkull 800 Point Level Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Edinburgh; Nationality: Bulgarian Posts: 871	The didn't ask a single UD.

07-03-2008, 11:15 AM	#9
4e.Realhope 100 Point Level Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 162	LOL.. have any of you tried fighting stupid zigs yet? It turned into my army with only 1 raider for ensnare vs his 5 acos repairign and 3 towers.. I felt like I was vs human, when they all repaired something, other than the ensnared one, it wouldnnnnn't die!

07-03-2008, 02:40 PM	#15
ggNoRe Peon Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8	I only get lag on the east server.

07-03-2008, 02:56 PM	#16
golden 500 Point Level Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 511	Again no Moon/sky/lucifer and other gosus player's comments. =<

07-03-2008, 07:08 PM	#19
DontHarmCreeps 200 Point Level Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 241	Having steam tanks give more experience means nothing if you have no buildings. A patch that forces NE and HU to do something else, and of course it's mostly complaints from the abusers From UD perspective __________________ My sig sucks.

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