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    I've heard about this before (back during the whole SOPA thing) but I mean is this for real? They can just detain US citizens now without trial and do so indefinitely ?

    Like, for real?

    Has this been fixed yet? Where would I go to find out such a thing, anyone know?
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    Like, for real?
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    A ruling has come down declaring portions of the NDAA -- the ones most of us were alarmed about -- to be unconstitutional. There are loads of articles out there but this one is brief and comes from a pretty non-sensational source:

    http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/09/12/50218.htm
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    lol did you link to an online petition?
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    Quote Originally Posted by <3Chicas View Post
    lol did you link to an online petition?
    What are you doing?

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    oh thats an old post. was gonna say i hoped that was a joke OP haha

    but yeah. this IS THE issue to grill Obama on. That no one really takes it seriously(that's if they even know about it) is downright disheartening
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedot View Post
    A ruling has come down declaring portions of the NDAA -- the ones most of us were alarmed about -- to be unconstitutional. There are loads of articles out there but this one is brief and comes from a pretty non-sensational source:

    http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/09/12/50218.htm
    http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-lohier-ndaa-stay-414/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1893652.html

    told you

    Obama and the courts/judges sold you guys(constitution) out.

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    yeah.. then your appointed judges block it
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    The only people that should be detained without trial are foreigners. Americans have rights
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex0duz View Post
    oh thats an old post. was gonna say i hoped that was a joke OP haha

    but yeah. this IS THE issue to grill Obama on. That no one really takes it seriously(that's if they even know about it) is downright disheartening
    i agree

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    lol I thought this thread was about some kind of american sports league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowKeyLyesmith View Post
    lol I thought this thread was about some kind of american sports league.
    Me too hahaha.

    I think it's ironic that so many news stations neglected to report an act that directly affects them.

    I mean it's either that or they are already working with the national defence. Both seem kind of scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex0duz View Post
    yeah.. then your appointed judges block it
    You don't think that maybe, that was the case? To get it through for the fundings it provided, and have the unconstitutional parts removed from his appointed supreme court members?

    I don't defend the thing in any way, or support the actions of actually having it pass. But to hold it strictly to Obama and for no other reason but to have the ability to unlawfully detail citizens is a bit much.

    This could be a silly question, but, do we even know of any accounts of the NDAA being used?
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    i meant that his appointed judge blocked his other appointed judge who blocked it initially after Obama personally signed it into law on new years eve like a scumbag. i apologize for the confusion

    If not Obama, who to blame for this? The voters who voted for Obama? The last judge who made a ruling that it's constitutional?

    The NDAA is a HUGE bill which covers a shit load of things. Of course it's being used. What's going on here is that i bet they have already used the shit Obama said he specifically would not use, which is why they wanna keep it constitutional even after Obama said he doesn't like that bit and was 'forced' to accept it, and that HE(who signed it), would never use it. Bullshit then, and bullshit now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex0duz View Post
    If not Obama, who to blame for this? The voters who voted for Obama? The last judge who made a ruling that it's constitutional?
    Equally Congress as much as Obama.
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    No one takes congress seriously though.

    Obama threatened to Veto it, i doubt any single person in congress has that kinda power/responsibility. He failed it.

    But to make you happy, yeah. Your whole countrys political system failed.
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