What if defend came 2nd tier?

[Killer_Penguin]

If defend (i'm talking about the insane new defend with reflecting) came 2nd tier, how would that affect gameplay?

[iCyeE]

It would probably make Footmen fairly crappy again, especially after defend is nerfed in 405, and it might even be more nerfed before release.

[Delfius]

I reckon they should make Reflect a separate upgrade to Defend. Defend can stay tier 1, and be a little cheaper. Reflect should be tier 2, so as to still encourage tier2 use of footmen with less potential impact on balance (which, in 1.16, is so delicately balanced already!)

[Meru]

Reflect is fine as it is, since footmen don't have a whole mess of HP, low damage, and low move speed, especially with defend (outmicro city) 2 rifles can still beat 3 footmen on an even playing field.

Defend's reflect keeps footies playable is all. Don't like reflect? Don't mass wyverns.

[Midnight(GM)]

I think Orc players' problems are not caused as much by foot vs wyvern but foot vs burrow or foot vs tower. having reflect at tier 2 could kind of help that problem, but personally i think thats why you use grunts to kill footies not burrows.

[seYo.]

foots no longer reflect on buildings

[RabidSkunk]

I think tier 1 reflect is too much for a tier 1 upgrade. Make defend and reflect different upgrades is fine with me.